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PSJailbreak is Detectable and Bannable on PSN, Dumped Easily


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209w ago - A few days ago we saw the inside pics of PS JailBreak, and today SKFU (linked above) has posted that PSJailbreak is both detectable and bannable on PSN along with Mathieulh confirming [Register or Login to view links] that GeoHot's exploit was used and that PS JailBreak can be [Register or Login to view links].

He went on to state: "Actually they used the geohot hack to get code with lv1 privileges running on the console, they then used this to 1. Dump lv1 2. dump the spm syscall table (that's after quite a bit of lv1 reversing to even figure the spm exists) 3. Use the actual spm syscalls to trick the spu into calculating the proper response for the dongle id of their choosing.

Without those steps that all require geohot's hack, they could never have gotten their dongle to successfully identify as a jig and they could never have triggered their hack.

The psjailbreak basically exploits the update manager which is the code that does the dongle auth located inside the spm itself inside lv1.

We don't have the payload it sends though because we don't have a dongle to sniff it from, thus we have yet to know what lv2 patches it does."

RichDevX has also tweeted ([Register or Login to view links], [Register or Login to view links], and [Register or Login to view links]) the following: "Using the backup manager on PSN is like walking into a trap. Title: Backup Manager || Title ID: LAUN12345. FYI, dongle IDs can be revoked! Don't be surprised if error 0x8002A227 is returned."

This essentially means Sony may detect those launching the backup manager and sending the following response which suspends the console from PSN: SCE_NP_AUTH_ERROR_CONSOLE_ID_SUSPENDED

Currently PlayStation Network is down for maintenance, although unconfirmed if it is due to Sony implementing PS JailBreak detection.

To quote from SKFU: "While hackers usually had to work very hard to succeed in the videogame scene, now all seems to become a business of corruption and audacity.

A short timeline of the PSJailbreak. How it may have started, succeeded and may go on.

PAST

Part 1: Someone (called "the fake hacker" below) came in contact with an employee of a SONY service center. The fake hacker probably used a bit social engeneering until the employee agreed to sell him one of the SONY confidential JIG Sticks used in the service centers to test and repair broken PS3 SKU's.

Part 2: The fake hacker used documentation and software which was leaked by other SONY employees to study the JIG stick. The stick is used to boot a special firmware from itself before the original PS3 firmware starts. The now running system allows to execute debug/fake signed executables which can be created with SONY's official SDK.

Part 3: The fake hacker shared the information with his team members and people who were able to clone the stick. Probably in china as usual.

Part 4: The stick is clonable, so the fake hacker went on and used stolen/leaked software from SONY's official SDK to develope (the only real work he did!) the application known as "backup manager" which is used on the PS3 to dump and start the backups.

PRESENCE

Part 5: The fake hacker distributes high illegal clones of the original JIG stick via several online shops including the "backup manager" which is also illegal as it's all created with stolen/leaked software and documentation by SONY.

FUTURE

Part 6: SONY may update the PS3's bootcode to prevent loading the stick. They also could log the "backup manager"'s game ID (LAUN-12345) when people go online. So they could identify who actually uses the illegal JIG clone and ban the affected consoles. This would be an illegal step aswell, but hey; it's SONY."



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laggmaster's Avatar
#84 - laggmaster - 208w ago
I just love how Sony doesn't even have to think about ways to combat this shit, you guys do that part for them. All they have to do is check this forum and they've got ideas galore.
^ its not like they dont already have contingency plans for situations just like this (i think they started thinking about that from the early days of psp hacking, Pandora battery kinda had a big effect)...

Chances are that sony dosent even care and the day after most of them are shipped and the are finaly being used (and hopefully are cloneable with an encryption chipped jumpdrive) they will just patch it with a firmware update...

Sony dosent even care about what we say on these forums, as far as they are concerned its mostly just gossip... after all it is the internet (80% adult content, 18% whining, and 2% useful information)

chomps268's Avatar
#83 - chomps268 - 208w ago
I just love how Sony doesn't even have to think about ways to combat this shit, you guys do that part for them. All they have to do is check this forum and they've got ideas galore.

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#82 - wwe101 - 208w ago
probably not... We would need some serious info on them beyond what we have currently. The power of the XBOX360 is roughly equivalent to the PS3, except for the fact that the X360 has multiple processors... the PS3 has SPUs. I hope you are still reading, because my point here being that Microsoft has 100% of the documentation on the xbox1 and still failed pretty miserably (or at least did for a long while) at designing an emulator for it on X360.

Sony, who has 100% access to PS2 specs, could have saved tens of thousands of dollars by developing an emulator for their system, and in fact developed emulation for most everything in their system, but they still didn't finish most likely due to processing limitations (IMHO).
this is where i disagree. think about it. there are some pretty darn good ps2/xbox emulators on the pc made by other people. its not that sony and microsoft cant emulate their old consoles they just dont want to. think about it, if they did then no one would buy xbox originals off of xbox live and no one would buy ps2/ps1 games off the psn network.

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#81 - aamir007 - 208w ago
When blocked by PSN for using the PS Jailbreak would you lose the option to use the web browser and media centre features and services such as BBC iPlayer, ect. I know it will allow to access any PSN services which am not too bothered about, hardly ever play online.
I meant to write 'I know it won't allow to access any PSN services which am not too bothered about, hardly ever play online.'
That's an interesting question. When I was still on 3.15, even when I wasn't signed into PSN, my console wouldn't allow me to connect to the Net to use either the web browser nor media center features unless I updated to 3.21, which I reluctantly did. So I dunno. I gave ya +Rep for posting the question though.
Thanks for the rep.

However i did bump into this on the forum [Register or Login to view links] which you could do before inserting the PS Jailbreak so the PS3 never actually connects to the PSN network at all when using the Jailbreak hence it does not get banned but it does mention that you won't be able to use the XMB web browser. But it still retains the media centre feature. Not sure if it would work.

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#80 - tripellex - 209w ago
When blocked by PSN for using the PS Jailbreak would you lose the option to use the web browser and media centre features and services such as BBC iPlayer,ect. I know it will allow to access any PSN services which am not too bothered about, hardly ever play online.
That's an interesting question. When I was still on 3.15, even when I wasn't signed into PSN, my console wouldn't allow me to connect to the Net to use either the web browser nor media center features unless I updated to 3.21, which I reluctantly did. So I dunno. I gave ya +Rep for posting the question though.

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