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GeoHot: Don't Update to 3.21, Promises PS3 Custom Firmware


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233w ago - Today infamous PS3 hacker GeoHot has blogged that users should not update their PS3 entertainment systems to PS3 Firmware v3.21 when it is released this Thursday as it will disable the OtherOS functionality, and as incentive not to update he has promised the very community he isn't sharing details on how to dump lv2 with that he will work on a solution which could include PS3 Custom Firmware.

To quote: "A note to people interested in the exploit and retaining OtherOS support, DO NOT UPDATE. When 3.21 comes out, I will look into a safe way of updating to retain OtherOS support, perhaps something like Hellcat's Recovery Flasher. I never intended to touch CFW, but if that's how you want to play...

Two things, some people seem to think CFW will enable some sort of piracy. It won't. It'll just be a custom version of 3.21 that doesn't lose OtherOS support. Hacking isn't about getting what you didn't pay for, it's about making sure you do get what you did.

And this is about more than this feature right now. It's about whether these companies have the right to take away advertised features from a product you purchased. Imagine if an exploit were found in Safari on the iPhone, but instead of fixing it, Apple decides to pull web browsing altogether. Legally, they may be within their right to do so, but we have to show them it's the wrong move for the future of the product and the company.

First off, I want to apologize to all the people who use Linux on their PS3. Before releasing, I weighed the pros and cons, and considered the possibility of an impact on OtherOS support.

My logic was this. OtherOS support had already been removed from the Slim (not for technical reasons; I believe it only existed in the first place to promote the Cell for IBM) The builders had apparently no intention of including it in future products. So for the purposes of openness why not release? Not like anything else has (or probably will be) done on the PS3.

Now you go and remove a feature that people expected to be included with the expensive device they purchased, citing "security concerns". What security concerns? It's not like the exploit can be run even close to without the users knowledge.

You have to open the thing up. How could this harm users? Your blog post doesn't list positive reasons for upgrading like I think most users expect. Instead it lists things you will lose if you don't upgrade. Seriously?

The PlayStation 3 is the only product I know that loses features throughout it's life cycle. Software PS2 emulation, SACD playback, and OtherOS support are all just software switches you can flip. It's unbelievable you would go and flip one, not just on new boxes you are shipping, but on tens of millions already in the field."

Here is to hoping GeoHot releases a PlayStation 3 solution in a timely manner, as unfortunately the entire PS3 (and Linux) scene is left waiting on him at the moment.



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vfxraven19's Avatar
#72 - vfxraven19 - 233w ago
I'm all in for it to preserve OtherOS, so hopefully a custom firmware of sorts will appear... not to promote/endorse piracy for PS3 that is, buy your games! Support the industry.

twitch's Avatar
#71 - twitch - 233w ago
Quote Originally Posted by dinzy View Post
Can someone explain how a modded 3.21 firmware could be run on the PS3 and not lead to some sort of piracy. After all wouldn't it be unsigned code?

Its not that it won't in the future but more that he won't make CFW with that function built in it, but that doesn't say that someone else will.

dinzy's Avatar
#70 - dinzy - 233w ago
Can someone explain how a modded 3.21 firmware could be run on the PS3 and not lead to some sort of piracy. After all wouldn't it be unsigned code?

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#69 - saviour07 - 233w ago
Quote Originally Posted by PS3 News View Post
I was going to link you to it, but I now see it's your own thread.

Anyway, for those who want to read it saviour07 has posted the full TOS here: [Register or Login to view links]

Lol right after i posted requesting the TOS i thought i might as well just post it instead! So hopefully anymore legal talk can be refered to there now

Back on topic: I agree that it could be worth waiting for some sort of work around which would allow an update which retains OtherOS functionality AND online play, because I myself want the PS3 open for homebrew, backups, pirated games (I'm not too bothered about the moral implications that others may have about that) but I also want to play online.

So it's necessary to be realistic in any pro's or con's that are weighed up:

Pro's... well there's only one really, the OtherOS functionality remaining intact in a 3.21 update which will allow users to keep their PS3's ready for some sort of future hack through linux and allow online play.

Con's... waiting for an unforseen amount of time for something which may or may not be possible, resulting in impatient people updating but sacrificing possible exploitation and cautious people not updating but sacrificing online play/future game releases.

I'm err'ing on waiting it out, however only if I find out that GeoHot is willing to share his finding with other dev's so I can feel a little bit better in the knowledge that there is a greater possibility for something to be done i.e. CFW allowing OtherOS and PSN access.

If he remains stubborn/silent for what I perceive as too long tho, then I'm willing to update to continue with online play and payout for an OtherOS enabled PS3 once a viable hack is found.

z3r06rav's Avatar
#68 - z3r06rav - 233w ago
remember every firmware has its flaw and to recognize them is to learn each thing sony did to prevent the exploit in each update then think around the box.

but when sony gets mad and bans you for doing it then its on whines the time a hacker gets even with cracking the sony backdoors and time to put hackers/crackers together and not online without privately chatting info on new firmware flaws so sony wont jump to it and fix it one thing is to make up your own script flaw and publish it to sony causing them to make a new flaw so they are creating the exploitable flaws in the firmware and

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