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Rumor: Sony to Remotely Disable JailBroken PS3s, PSN Bans?

Category: PS3 Hacks & JailBreak  By: ultrachez - (joystiq.com)
Tags: rumor sony remotely disable jailbroken ps3s psn bans ps3 jailbreak bans

123w ago - Today JoyStiq (linked above) speculates that based on both a NeoGAF Tip by Mr_Brit and a Digital Foundry report Sony may be planning to remotely disable JailBroken PS3 consoles essentially banning them from PSN.

To quote: "Even if you've never signed up for a PSN account, your console will communicate with Sony servers every time it boots up.

That initial load process is used to upload error logs, download updates to the "What's New" module, and a list of recently-run applications, including any unauthorized backup manager software.

Sony has yet to ban any consoles for taking advantage of the jailbreak, but the terms and conditions of the PlayStation Network make it clear that Sony has the authority to carry them out.

Thanks to the system's constant self-reporting feature, "the company even has the means to irrevocably disable your console should it so wish," rendering affected PS3 consoles unusable, online and off. But will Sony ever use such a drastic measure? And if so, how will the hacker scene retaliate?"

From NeoGAF, to quote: "On boot the system contacts the server and uploads the play list etc. this list alone is enough to get anyone that goes online banned as it shows the bootmanger etc. has been running. Here is the list and what they do, I port sniffed this a while ago before I went online with a retail unit >.> because I am not stupid hehe.

fus01.ps3.update.playstation.net > Update Server (sys updates)
mercury.dl.playstation.net > What's new ads
nsx.np.dl.playstation.net > playstation store preview
nsx-e.np.dl.playstation.net > ads
(main file exchange connections)
us.np.stun.playstation.net > on boot initiates connection
ena.net.playstation.net > SSLv3 connection after above connection
dus01.ps3.update.playstation.net > secondary update attempt (could force updates)
auth.np.ac.playstation.net > SSLv3 authentication server
(destination servers)
service.playstation.net (has multiple IPs if only the ip address is blocked)
(Error Reporting)
creepo.ww.hl.playstation.net (uploads crash reports etc.)

Almost all connections cannot just be port blocked, the port will continue to increment until it connects, you have to block the entire domains. Also a big point is that ALL computers on your network need to have these blocked not just the PS3's MAC because if you are running a proxy for example to get patches, the computer you proxy to will just allow the connections right out to the open unless all local IPs are blocked from these sites as well.

Surprising absolutely noone it looks like Sony are detecting homebrew applications meaning that everyone who went on PSN with a jailbroken console can expect to be banned eventually. This is definitely not the only way that Sony can detect jailbroken systems so we'll never truly ever know if it's going to be safe to go online. That ban may come tommorow or it may come in 6 months time but it will almost certainly eventually come."




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#42 - miiwii08 - 123w ago
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with all the file managers etc its just a matter of time before somebody identifies a way to reset/ modify the log from the on board flash... so unfortunately sony, u stil lose

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#41 - young blade - 123w ago
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I dont think it will be good for their reputation if they start doing this.. even if its legal.. everyone payed a good amount of cash to obtain their console..

When the start doing this no one is going to let it slide.. And I bet that the PS-Doctors (hackers) will find a way to unlock them again..

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#40 - snoekie - 123w ago
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Originally Posted by Tepoo View Post
Quote can a police officer put you in jail for a criminal act, without your permission? yes they can.


But this is a civil case, not a criminal act. Breaking the EULA, if it even applies to you (because that's not always the case, an EULA cannot go beyond the law, if so, that clause is not valid), is not a criminal act, it's a breach of contract.

Of course, Sony would like it to be a criminal act, just like copyright infringement. (for example, a theft is a a criminal act, a copyright infringement isn't.)

All sony can so is threatening with a lawsuit, just as they have done with their stooges, the RIAA and the MPAA. What did you expect? That they wouldn't sue?

Banning you from PSN, that's something they can do, based on their EULA. Bricking PS3s is something they can do, but if they do it intentionally, they can see some backlash from consumer right associations. Just imagine all the buthurt moms who complain, because their children's PS3s got bricked.

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#39 - xxxgizmoxxx - 123w ago
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They can't disable or ban every console that has ever gone online jailbroken. I dropped out of the Jailbreak scene ages ago and removed all homebrew from my console, although I did go online with it Jailbroken when the spoof was created. Now what say I take my 'Legit' console down to the local game store and trade it in?

No one would know it had ever been jailbroken, and some poor kid would get banned or even bricked without a clue what it was going on! the log might retain the info for the console's lifetime but Sony would have to be a little more selective about which consoles to target than just opting for a blanket execution!

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#38 - Tepoo - 123w ago
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Originally Posted by blueclouduk View Post
Quote So Sony can disable my console without my permission?

can a police officer put you in jail for a criminal act, without your permission? yes they can.

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