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How to Prevent Your PS3 from Being Banned for Homebrew

Category: PS3 Hacks & JailBreak  By: SexyVampiire - (ps3news.com)
Tags: prevent ps3 ban prevent psn ban block ps3 ban block psn ban ps3 homebrew

123w ago - There have been quite a few articles about possible things that Sony could end up doing to try and stop PS3 homebrew, and here are all the potential solutions I have noticed thus far.

PS3's will start sending a recently played list to check for homebrew titles / flagged names:

Pretty obvious solution here. Just start naming the homebrews after currently existing titles, Or titles of bad games. Such as we can take the game name / BLUS for the game FLOCK (worst game ever that nobody will play) and install a master manager under that name.

So while it looks like everyone is playing FLOCK, We will actually be using a multimanager for FTP's, Backups, and Emulators.

Sony disabling update by USB in the next patch:

There are a few options we can take if we end up accidentally getting hit with this.

For people who update and can no longer install from usb:

Either the firmware will need a pre-installed pkg manager with firmware update options, Or they will have to do a dnas redirect to their computer to check for an update.

For people who have not updated to the new firmware that disables it:

Download the firmware and simply patch the firmware to alter the USB access as well so it does not get disabled to begin with!

Sub-level secondary key-signing program:

Well. in this sense, We would be absolutely screwed. If we were to install the firmware, Even with a pkg signer, We wouldn't be able to do a thing.

We would simply have to hope that someone would notice it uses a secondary keysign, find it in the firmware, and remove it before it becomes a problem.

How to truly help everyone there is for future firmwares:

We need a program with a GUI for firmware patching, Yeah I know one is out already, But it needs more OPTIONS! Options people!!!

We need a windows / linux firmware patcher with a GUI featuring the following options in the form of checkboxes.

  • Level 1 patching
  • Level 2 patching
  • Level 3 patching
  • Install PKG File option
  • Update from USB option
  • Playstation store links in VIDEO tab
  • Playstation store links in GAME tab
  • Check for firmware update on network connection establish

I am certain a gui windows / linux auto-patcher for all current firmwares would be WONDERFUL and would probably make the world a happier place.

Hell, I don't know of a single person who wouldn't want these options for an autopatcher.

Oh, And someone hurry up and figure out the npdrm so we can get an autopatcher for EBOOT's that works.




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xastey's Avatar
#57 - xastey - 123w ago
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also found 2 other places

//dev_hdd0/vsh/pushlist/game.dat



42 42 30 30 31 31 31 31 31 00 42 4C 45 53 30 30
39 34 39 00

BB0011111.BLES00
949.


//dev_hdd0/vsh/pushlist/patch.dat


42 42 30 30 31 31 31 31 31 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30 31 2E 32 30 00 00 00 30 30 2E 30 30 30 30 00
00 00 00 02 42 4C 45 53 30 30 39 34 39 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 30 31 2E 30 30 00 00 00 30 33 2E 34
31 30 30 00 00 00 00 01

BB0011111.......
................
01.20...00.0000.
....BLES00949...
................
....01.00...03.4
100.....

Not sure what these are used for, but it does log the recent games, first one is blackbox ftp and the other is nfs:hp

Sounds like a nice first homebrew app.. only if I could find the damn OpenSDK api docs.

SexyVampiire's Avatar
#56 - SexyVampiire - 123w ago
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Originally Posted by Neo Cyrus View Post
Quote
2 - How about just creating a custom firmware that doesn't send the log to Sony? No need to deal with all the BS of point #1.

Well, If we were capable of that, then I think our CFW`s would be able to go online without the need to update to the latest version to begin with.

If anything, This will be a server sided update from some pre-existing software within the console. (Ever notice how games you played reciently show up in a list in related to playstation store stuff / dlc, and somehow shows up on friends consoles you just logged into?)
Originally Posted by Neo Cyrus View Post
Quote
3 - Isn't this spying Sony is doing illegal? I'm certain it must be in several countries.

Microsoft`s kinect spies on you, And you think just knowing what your playing is illegal?

Originally Posted by barrybarryk View Post
Quote Spoofing homebrew by renaming it is a ridiculous idea there's absolutely no reason think that sony won't just check a file / folder list (not currently implemented but very simply added through an update to PSN on the server side) on the PS3 to ban consoles.

They wont impliment such a feature seeing as it would be an absolute chore, unless they released some flagsoftware homebrew like microsoft did with several of their games in the form of fake ISO`s
Originally Posted by barrybarryk View Post
Quote
If you want to play online get a legit PS3 with no homebrew. homebrew will ALWAYS be detectable by Sony if you're connecting to their servers no amount of "renaming" will hide it.

Pretty sure me and quite a few others here Definitely disagree with that.
Originally Posted by iloveyou View Post
Quote How about killing the sending log file functions ?! I thought console is open... lets do it.

They may have it be absolutely required to connect to the network, We will just have to wait for the first hammer to fall so we can analyze the software.
Originally Posted by Neo Cyrus View Post
Quote Any controller can work on a PC. MotionInJoy is the driver for PS3 controllers, it used to be a pain but now it's easy to install, just disable driver signature enforcement.

Not everyone likes the trouble of using a computer for such porpoises.

Game systems are made to play games, thats 95% of the reason emulators are on all game consoles.

Originally Posted by PSPSwampy View Post
Quote I vote for all DEVs to work together - implement a standard exit to all applications in the Open SDK which clears down the various log files.

Preferably this should be in the open SDK in a location which is always called when application exits (I'm assuming there is some class inheritance here, but haven't looked into it much). Otherwise a standard function should be added that can be called anytime by devs.

I'd recommend a clear down on START of application as well as application EXIT. It still isn't goign to be 100% - since the "report back to us" might be triggered during runtime.


Now THATS the kind of thinking I like to see!

Could even go so far as to have a PKG for "Safe Shutdown" which basically cleans the cache of recently played games. then initiates the shutdown protocol for the system.

Originally Posted by rajkosladic View Post
Quote the question that i have been wondering to ask is can $ony still ban you if you have a cfw ps3 and you don't play homebrew games on it?


Checking the full firmware for anomalies every boot seems like it would be a pain. And in the system menu it still says "Firmware 3.55" instead of something like "DARK ALEX OWNS LOLOLOLO"

so. I think we would be safe, unless they somehow can see the install pkg file option.

Originally Posted by xastey View Post
Quote surprised no on has found this "log" file, I been thinking of trying to find it myself when i get bored enough..

It has been found, but it has not been used by sony yet to check for homebrew. Just for recently played games to try and sell you DLC for games your interested in.

Originally Posted by Xplic1T View Post
Quote I don't think they should use the same ID (flock) for a backup manager if everyone is using it. If anything, a backup manager should just have a randomly generated game ID from other games not to specifically flag just one game.

Yeah...But then when you go on the PSN and try to install / download a game that was randomly generated..It would already detect it...

Originally Posted by xastey View Post
Quote Well I went looking for the log file and I found that it only contains the game ID's
//dev_hdd0/home//etc/boot_history.dat

I have blackbox ftp running and it shows up here as BB0011111. The file is pretty simple



47 42 42 30 30 31 31 31 31 31 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
47 42 4C 45 53 30 30 39 34 39 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

which is


GBB0011111......
................
GBLES00949......
................


Now we just need a pkg file that cleans up this log by either wiping it all, or replacing the data with "Metal gear solid 4!" and then preforms a shutdown.

A pkg seems like it would be the most effective way to clean out the log, And it could possibly even be implemented to clear the log throughout every homebrew that is released. That way if you ever even decide to play a homebrew, Its an automatically cleaned list, without the need of a "System safe shutdown" package file.

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#55 - barrybarryk - 123w ago
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Sony can't decide to make updates automatic (I'm guessing you mean't transparent as even automatic updates need your authorisation to be installed) It's the same reason game updates aren't mandatory, any changes and the eu needs to be notified and given the option of accepting or declining and thats not to mention the dangers of people turning off their PS3's while some invisible firmware upgrade is going on in the background.

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#54 - Brenza - 123w ago
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Yes it's true, even if you don't ask for it ps3 can link to sony's server and send\receive information.

If sony decides to make updates automatic you can only deny internet access to your ps3.

xastey's Avatar
#53 - xastey - 123w ago
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Well I went looking for the log file and I found that it only contains the game ID's
//dev_hdd0/home//etc/boot_history.dat

I have blackbox ftp running and it shows up here as BB0011111. The file is pretty simple



47 42 42 30 30 31 31 31 31 31 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
47 42 4C 45 53 30 30 39 34 39 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

which is


GBB0011111......
................
GBLES00949......
................

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