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Speculation: No Ultra HD for Sony's Next-gen PS4 Console?


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198w ago - While Sony previously confirmed that developers will play a key role in building their next-gen console which is expected to arrive after the Microsoft and Nintendo counterparts, today PS4Sony.net (linked above) speculates that the PS4 won't include Ultra HD support.

Based on specifications from [Register or Login to view links], they surmise the technology just doesn't seem feasible for next-gen consoles including the PlayStation 4.

To quote: "Today, Full HD offers up a maximum resolution of 1920 x 1080, whereas the new you-beaut Ultra HD offers a whopping max resolution of 7680 x 4320!

Ultra HD poses numerous practical problems for manufacturers seeking to bring the new format to consumers. The uncompressed video and audio recorded in ultra HD takes up high volumes of storage space - 3.5 terabytes for one 18-minute clip, requiring a hard disc weighing almost 600 pounds (272 kg).

The prototype ultra HD screen can use more electricity than an entire house might in one month. An early ultra HD camera weighs more than 100 pounds (45 kg).

I don't know about you but something just jumps out and screams "not enough bandwidth" in this picture. Even if Sony's new 1TB disc surfaces over the next few years, that's only sufficient enough to store a massive 6-and-a-bit minute Ultra HD movie!

Don't expect this technology to be anywhere close to be implemented within your PS4 console, regardless of Internet hype."



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#26 - thedevilsdj - 198w ago
You make a good point there tragedy... Just a shame that it looks like we will have to wait for the next next generation of consoles to support this awesome resolution.

I mean its not just for games really, i made the decision that i was going to buy a ps3 not only for gaming but for all the other media capability that it presents as well.

It looks like were going backwards here in Australia as our all of our HD [1080i] channels have now been replaced with other SD channels! Quite annoying actually.

It just seems a waste that our next gen consoles are just going to have more emphasis on 3D and motion since we already have 50% of this technology available now and really 3D??? who can be bothered wearing glasses to watch a movie/play games.... it just gives me a headache!!!

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#25 - tragedy - 198w ago
5 years ago no one was using FULL HD in their home along with Bluray and now this is the norm.
Sure, nobody without a time machine was watching blu-rays 5 years ago. However, HDTV was just beginning to become relatively common and the technology had been available to (rich) consumers for quite some time by then (HD has been broadcast over-the-air in the US for 12 years now). HDTV technology was already fairly well established when the current generation of consoles were being designed.

Ultra-HD is not seriously being considered by anyone for consumer use yet and it's surely ridiculous to expect the next generation of consoles, which have presumably been in design for a couple of years already, to support a technology you can't even buy yet.

The other thing is that the current generation of consoles only just have enough power to handle 1080p as it is. Certainly, as soon as you try doing anything complicated, game designers have to compromise on 720p or 30fps, because there simply isn't enough power. It would make sense to double (or more) the power of current-gen consoles whilst keeping display technology the same.

Finally, customers are only just buying HDTV in any great numbers in the last couple of years, despite HDTV being available for over a decade. Given that most people have only just bought an HDTV, it's likely that they're not going to even think about buying a new TV for another 5 years. The sudden pick-up in HDTV adoption in the last couple of years is almost certainly down the to fact that it's now basically impossible to buy a non-HDTV set, not necessarily because people feel they need it. Although I can't understand it, I know a lot of people with HDTVs who are perfectly happy with SD broadcasts and DVDs.

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#24 - TheDevil - 198w ago
Doubt UHD or any other higher than HD format is going to happen in the next 10 years. One thing was going from vhs to dvd as there was "need" and noticable difference. But from then on its taken ages to get HD introduced.. like Bluray is still not used by the average person in my end of the world.

Sure they try tho and blockbuster has a large selection of bluray movies.. but the "common" people here still think "we just got dvd already no reason to use bluray" and stick to buying movies on dvd down at the local mall.

Then there is the "brand new" broadcasting using mpg2 .. and we promise to change to mpg4 soon (lol) .. aka in a couple of years.

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#23 - hacked2123 - 198w ago
I mean, who of us have so much space to stand there a 70" - 90" ?
I had my last "TV" projecting at 130"+ in my last apartment. (Picked the place just because of the long livingroom) It definitely needed full hd, but uhd probably would have looked about the same at that resolution from the distance we were sitting back from.

you do realize that they might be using the 600lb scale compared to what a full length movie might require...

If they made a full length movie at UHD it would be 50lbs or less in hard-drives. Of course that is still impractical, but it certainly isn't 600LBs. Storage is not going to be 'compact disks" in the future of UHD, I doubt it would be internet either, but something of a 'matrix disk' for portable use will probably hit market by then...probably not PS4 though.

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#22 - thedevilsdj - 198w ago
I find it very hard to read these comments! i just think its rediculus to think that nothing is going to change in the next 5 years.

5 years ago no one was using FULL HD in their home along with Bluray and now this is the norm.

And to say that Films do not require 1080p to be watched surprises me again. Do we not realise that an actually movie [in the cinema] is way above the 1080p version that we have on our bluray device? this is why DVD's had to be eliminated as they the reolution was jsut rubbish.

personally i think they should should support the new res. having this option does not mean that normal 1080p will be disabled.

if they don't it just means that we will pay big money for the PS4 and agian for the PS5 that will have UHD support. Considering that the PS2 hung around for 10 years do we really want to be waiting for 20 years to have this support in our homes?

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