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Sony VP Hints of PlayStation 4 (PS4) Announcement in May, 2013


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92w ago - It's been just over a month since IGN confirmed PlayStation 4 developer kit updates surfaced, and today Sony VP of Home Entertainment Hiroshi Sakamoto has hinted that a PS4 (Orbis) announcement my arrive in May prior to E3 this year.

Below is the scoop, to quote: "He told [Register or Login to view links] in response to a question about "a new announcement related to the new PlayStation," that while the news is "still a big secret," the PlayStation side of Sony, "are getting ready for it."

He of course doesn't directly refer to a "PlayStation 4" or the rumored "Orbis" internal project name. Sakamoto adds that the PlayStation team are "focused on E3," but, "the announcement could take place at that time, or maybe even before, in May."

Sounds like Sony's toying with a pre-E3 event for its next-gen console - E3 takes place on June 11 - 13 - though Mr. Sakamoto's comments are still ambiguous enough that we can't be sure. This is a company that launched three different major hardware iterations of the PlayStation 3, so anything could happen.

When the interviewer follows up on Sakamoto's tease-y answer by asking, "But are you getting ready for a big announcement or something complementary?," Sakamoto continues speaking in ambiguities.

"Probably the former, on that date we hope to deliver big news, but we must wait until May at least," he says. We've followed up with Sony for more, but don't expect to hear much beyond a wink and a smile."

Below are some purported PS4 / Orbis specifications courtesy of [Register or Login to view links], to quote:

Here are the highlights:

• CPU.

Both the next generation PlayStation - and its Xbox competitor - feature eight-core CPUs clocked at 1.6GHz according to sources trusted by Digital Foundry.

The main processor architecture driving both consoles is said to be derived the new "Jaguar" technology currently in development by Intel's arch-rival, AMD. These are low-power processor cores designed for the entry-level laptop and tablet market, offering an excellent ratio between power consumption and performance. The PC Jaguar products are set to ship later this year in a quad-core configuration - next-gen consoles see the core count double with some customisations added to the overall design.

• GPU.

Married to the eight-core processor, Orbis also features Radeon HD graphics hardware. We've previously suggested that AMD's mobile "Pitcairn" design - the Radeon 7970M - could be a strong basis for a next-gen console graphics core in terms of power consumption and die-size. Running at 850MHz and featuring 20 of AMD's "Graphics Core Next" compute units, our information suggests that Orbis shaves off 10 per cent of that number, offering up 18 CUs in total, and sees a mild downclock to 800MHz. Incorporated into a design dedicated to cutting-edge visuals and gameplay, this hardware has some serious potential.

However, there's a fair amount of "secret sauce" in Orbis and we can disclose details on one of the more interesting additions. Paired up with the eight AMD cores, we find a bespoke GPU-like "Compute" module, designed to ease the burden on certain operations - physics calculations are a good example of traditional CPU work that are often hived off to GPU cores. We're assured that this is bespoke hardware that is not a part of the main graphics pipeline but we remain rather mystified by its standalone inclusion, bearing in mind Compute functions could be run off the main graphics cores and that devs could have the option to utilise that power for additional graphical grunt, if they so chose.

• RAM.

We also have hard data on Orbis's memory set-up. It features 4GB of GDDR5 - the ultra-fast RAM that typically ships with the latest PC graphics cards - with 512MB reserved for the operating system. This is in stark contrast to the much slower DDR3 that Durango will almost certainly ship with. Microsoft looks set to be using an offshoot of eDRAM technology connected to the graphics core to offset the bandwidth issues the use of DDR3 incurs. Volume of RAM is the key element in Durango's favour - there'll be 8GB in total, with a significant amount (two sources we've spoken to suggest 3GB in total) reserved for the OS.

Finally, Sony is also expected to drop their popular DualShock design with PlayStation 4. Below are some excerpts from [Register or Login to view links] and [Register or Login to view links], as follows:

Apparently, the new system's controller has undergone a number of different designs, only a few of which resemble the DualShock.

This is what CVG reports:

A senior games studio source working on an upcoming Sony game says the new system's controller has undergone numerous iterations, few of which resemble the DualShock build that has become synonymous with PlayStation.

Experiments within Sony's R&D department are thought to have been extensive. Versions of the new PS4 pad include biometric sensors on the grips and an LCD touch screen, the development source claimed.

A second source, working in a separate part of the industry but still connected to Sony, said PlayStation engineers are "trying to emulate the same user interface philosophies as the PS Vita". This is likely a reference to the touch-screen capabilities of the PlayStation handheld, and a suggestion that Sony will tightly integrate its portable and home systems.

The new console - codenamed Orbis - will be revealed in a matter of weeks, not months.

Sony has declined to comment. And, what Eurogamer said matches with the above:

This information tallies with what Eurogamer has heard from our own sources. We understand that as of six months ago Sony was testing a controller that had an LCD touch-screen on the front and biometrics functionality on the back. These designs, we were told, have changed almost every month, but are for the controller for the next PlayStation.

Biometrics technology captures data from the player's body, such as temperature and heart rate. Half-Life developer Valve has been experimenting with the tech, trying to discover new game experiences that would benefit from it. Sony did not comment.






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#65 - PS3 News - 91w ago
Following up on the previous PlayStation 4 rumor, today the purported PS4 / Orbis final specifications have been unveiled alongside updated GPU details below.

To quote via VGLeaks.com (linked above): LIVERPOOL SOC:

  • Custom implementation of AMD Fusion APU Arquitecture (Accelerated Processing Unit)
  • Provides good performance with low power consumption
  • Integrated CPU and GPU
  • Considerably bigger and more powerful than AMD’s other APUs

liverpool

CPU:

  • Orbis contains eight Jaguar cores at 1.6 Ghz, arranged as two “clusters”
  • Each cluster contains 4 cores and a shared 2MB L2 cache
  • 256-bit SIMD operations, 128-bit SIMD ALU
  • SSE up to SSE4, as well as Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX)
  • One hardware thread per core
  • Decodes, executes and retires at up to two intructions/cycle
  • Out of order execution
  • Per-core dedicated L1-I and L1-D cache (32Kb each)
  • Two pipes per core yield 12,8 GFlops performance
  • 102.4 GFlops for system

GPU:

  • GPU is based on AMD’s “R10XX” (Southern Islands) architecture
  • DirectX 11.1+ feature set
  • Liverpool is an enhanced version of the architecture
  • 18 Compute Units (CUs)
  • Hardware balanced at 14 CUs
  • Shared 512 KB of read/write L2 cache
  • 800 Mhz
  • 1.843 Tflops, 922 GigaOps/s
  • Dual shader engines
  • 18 texture units
  • 8 Render backends

Memory:

  • 4 GB unified system memory, 176 GB/s
  • 3.5 available to games (estimate)

Storage:

High speed Blu-ray drive

  • Single layer (25 GB) or dual layer (50 GB) discs
  • Partial constant angular velocity (PCAV)
  • Outer half of disc 6x (27 MB/s)
  • Inner half varies, 3.3x to 6x

Internal mass storage

  • One SKU at launch: 500 GB HDD
  • There may also be a Flash drive SKU in the future

Networking:

  • 1 Gb/s Ethernet, 802.11b/g/n WIFI, and Bluetooth

Peripherals:

  • Evolved Dualshock controller
  • Dual Camera
  • Move controller

Extra:

  • Audio Processor (ACP)
  • Video encode and decode (VCE/UVD) units
  • Display ScanOut Engine (DCE)
  • Zlib Decompression Hardware

Update: Some people is confused about the GPU, here you have more info about it:

Each CU contains dedicated:

  • ALU (32 64-bit operations per cycle)
  • Texture Unit
  • L1 data cache
  • Local data share (LDS)

About 14 + 4 balance:

  • 4 additional CUs (410 Gflops) “extra” ALU as resource for compute
  • Minor boost if used for rendering

Dual Shader Engines:

  • 1.6 billion triangles/s, 1.6 billion vertices/s

18 Texture units:

  • 56 billion bilinear texture reads/s
  • Can utilize full memory bandwith

8 Render backends:

  • 32 color ops/cycle
  • 128 depth ops/cycle
  • Can utilize full memory bandwith

All this info is subject to change in the future by Sony. We will give more detailed information about each component in future articles.

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#64 - racer0018 - 91w ago
As i was saying before i hope that they come out with something that is like the kinect for xbox. But one can only hope. thanks

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#63 - PS3 News - 91w ago
Following up on last week's PlayStation 4 rumors, today Kotaku (linked above) and [Register or Login to view links] have revealed the rumored PS4 / Orbis final devkit specifications, touch pad controller details and new account system summary below.

To quote: SPECS

We'll begin with the specs. And before we go any further, know that these are current specs for a PS4 development kit, not the final retail console itself. So while the general gist of the things you see here may be similar to what makes it into the actual commercial hardware, there's every chance some - if not all of it - changes, if only slightly.

That being the case, here's what we know is inside PS4 development kits - model # DVKT-KS000K - as of January 2013. As you'll see, some things have changed since earlier kits became available in March 2012.

  • System Memory: 8GB
  • Video Memory: 2.2 GB
  • CPU: 4x Dual-Core AMD64 "Bulldozer" (so, 8x cores)
  • GPU: AMD R10xx
  • Ports: 4x USB 3.0, 2x Ethernet
  • Drive: Blu-Ray
  • HDD: 160GB
  • Audio Output: HDMI & Optical, 2.0, 5.1 & 7.1 channels

If you think the HDD is small, remember, these are the specs for a machine that developers are using to make games on, not the console you'll own and be storing media on. And don't worry about having two ethernet ports; as this is a dev kit, one is there for local sharing/testing purposes.

Interestingly, while some of these specs (such as the 8x core CPU) match with those reported by Digital Foundry only a few days ago, others like the RAM (DF reported 4GB of GDDR5, while we've heard 8GB) differ.

We've learned there's a headphone jack on the front of the console, but it's unclear whether that's just for dev kits or is an intended feature of the final retail console.

CONTROLLER

The PlayStation 4 Has A New Controller, Fancy User Accounts And Impressive Specs (So Far)

Ever since the release of the original PlayStation, Sony has maintained roughly the same basic controller design. This trend may be continuing with the PS4, because we've learned that developers are working with—and dev kits support—both the Sixaxis and DualShock 3 controller. This suggests that, for the most part, the design and capabilities of the PS4's controller will be similar to those on the PS3. The documentation also shows a Move controller, suggesting Sony's Wii-style motion wand will work with the new console.

There is a new controller in development for the PS4, though, known internally as the Orbis Development Tool, and while it keeps many of the same features as the current pads—like the four iconic PlayStation face buttons, two thumbsticks and shoulder triggers - there's one key addition.

THE CURRENT PS4 DEV KIT, AT A GLANCE

  • 8GB system memory, 2.2GB video memory
  • 4x Dual-Core AMD64 "Bulldozer" CPU, AMD R10xx Liverpool GPU
  • New controller features touch pad
  • Can link PSN accounts to controllers, allowing for multiple logins.

British site CVG speculated last week that, because they'd heard the PS4's controller was "trying to emulate the same user interface philosophies as the PS Vita", that meant it would feature a touch screen. Instead, the Orbis' controller features a capacitive touch pad, like you find on the back of a Vita (presumably it's also on the back of the PS4's controller), that can recognise two-point multi-touch. The entire pad can also be "clicked" for an additional input button.

The PS4's controller will again be capable of motion-sensing, like its PS3 predecessors, only now with improved technology like tilt correction. It will also feature vibration, which Sony has thankfully learned is a next-gen feature you need to launch with. It'll also have an RGB LED light in it.

While there have been reports of the PS4 controller featuring "biometric" technology, there was no mention of it in the information we were provided.

There's one other addition to the PS4's pad you won't find on a DualShock 3: a "Share" button. We're not exactly sure what it does. The most likely use would be to allow users to share some aspect of their gaming experience to Twitter or Facebook. Maybe a screenshot? We have no idea. But that Share button might have something to do with...

ACCOUNTS

The PlayStation 4 Has A New Controller, Fancy User Accounts And Impressive Specs (So Far)

Sony is trying to change the way you think about user accounts with the PS4. As it stands now, and this applies to all current consoles the PS3 (and the Wii U), when you log in, you log in as a single user. With Orbis, Sony is moving the place of "ownership" away from the console, with something it calls "multi-user simultaneous logins."

Which means that the PS4 will let more than one person be logged into the same system at the same time. It achieves this by linking control pads to user accounts; as each new controller syncs with the system, that player's account can be logged in as well. Accounts won't be "locked" to a controller; you'll simply be prompted to sign in to an account every time an extra pad is connected to the console.

One application we learned about for this feature would be that, were four players in a co-op battle able to defeat a boss, then all four would receive trophies.

We only learned of this feature in relation to local accounts stored on the console itself. It's unclear whether you'd also be able to do this via the PlayStation Network if you were playing online.

That's it for now. Remember, none of this information is confirmed, and even the information that is locked down in January 2013 may change before the console's eventual release, which is likely not for at least another nine months, at minimum. This is just what we've been told Sony is working on and planning for as of today. That being the case, how do you think it's shaping up?

Finally, from [Register or Login to view links] comes ORBIS Devkits Roadmap / Types below, as follows:

Currently, there are 3 types of devkits:

1) R10 boards with special BIOS, running in generic PC’s
2) “Initial 1″ - Early devkit

  • Model number: DVKT-KS000K
  • SCE-provided PC equipped with R10XX board
  • Runs Orbis OS
  • Available July 2012

3) SoC Based Devkit: early version of the ORBIS hardware

  • Available January 2013

Time to look inside of each devkit:

R10 Board (with special BIOS) Assemble in a Generic PC

  • Requires Windows 7 64 bit edition
  • Recommend
  • Sandy Bridge (Intel) or Bulldozer (AMD)
  • Minimum 8 GB RAM (system memory)
  • 650 Watt PSU
  • VS2010 SP1
  • DWM (Desktop Windows Manager) must be turned off
  • Application will use Windows services for everything except GPU interface
  • SCE will provide “Gnm”, a custom GPU interface

Do you remember the first Durango’s pictures? This is a very early devkit based on Windows.

DVKT-KS000K ( “Initial 1″ )

  • Runs Orbis OS
  • CPU: Bulldozer 8-core, 1.6 Ghz
  • Graphics Card: R10 with special BIOS
  • RAM: 8 GB (system memory)
  • BD Drive
  • HDD: 2.5 ” 160 GB
  • Network Controller
  • Custom South Bridge allows access to controller prototypes

DVKT-KS000K SoC Based Devkit

  • Available in January 2013
  • CPU: 8-core Jaguar
  • GPU: Liverpool GPU
  • RAM: unified 8 GB for devkit (4 GB for the retail console)
  • Subsystem: HDD, Network Controller, BD Drive, Bluetooth Controller, WLAN and HDMI (up to 1980x1080 at 3D)
  • Analog Outputs: Audio, Composite Video
  • Connection to Host: USB 3.0 (targeting over 200 MB/s)
  • ORBIS Dualshock
  • Dual Camera

The last devkit is the closer one to the retail console. Expect a machine with these specs or similar to these ones. Obviously, Sony could introduce changes in these features, but don’t expect deep mods.

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#62 - NbAlIvEr100 - 92w ago
Quote Originally Posted by kyokusanagi View Post
Let us hope the PS4 will be the flashship console , that can play ps1, ps2 ps3 and psp game! And easy to jailbreak it.

I think $ony had already confirmed that the PS4 will NOT play PS3 games; only PS1 and 2 games... And I'm sure $ony will do everything they can to prevent another easy jailbreak, but you never know. With the $400 price range you can't go wrong with picking one up and hoping for the best.

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#61 - adrianc1982 - 92w ago
guys i was younger once, and I had to sell my consoles in order to get new ones or simply if money was an issue my only asset was my consoles and had to sell to get another piece of hardware. The truth is to this day I regret selling my consoles because the money i got for them was little and I miss a lot of my great old games, it was a mistake to sell my xbox 1, my ps2, my nintendo ds, those where big mistakes.

Hang on to your hardware and play the shit out of it. Maybe at the moment you are not that interested in playing your current console but believe me in 5 - 10 years when the current games are hard to find or difficult to emulate you will be regretting selling your consoles like I did.

I've been researching a lot lately why emulation is so hard and why not all games get renewed and believe me, most titles have a license and when that license expires the developer can not continue production and thats limbo hell for there project. Take care of your consoles and preserve them as well as you can, you will not regret it a couple of years later when all these machines cant do bc. If they can do bc, well your games are still there!

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