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153w ago - A few months back Sony stated that PlayStation 4 is expected to arrive with rival next-generation consoles, and today [Register or Login to view links] reports that PS4 is in development with AMD rumored to be building the system's graphics technology.

To quote: "Sony is working on an as-yet-unannounced new gaming console, former AMD employees say, and the processor designer may play a key role in the new product.

AMD's graphics technology is already used in Microsoft's XBox 360 console. However, Sony's PlayStation 3 - introduced in 2006 - relies on graphics technology from Nvidia.

AMD declined to comment on the project. Sony Chief Transformation Officer George Bailey also declined to discuss Sony's new console, or even acknowledge its existence.

However, at AMD's analyst day last month, AMD Chief Financial Officer Thomas Seifert identified gaming as one of several trends that will drive revenue growth at AMD in 2012."




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#43 - Prince Valiant - 152w ago
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"they could go with the AMD Fusion architecture, which puts CPU and GPU on the same chip."

Keeping them separate is a better choice if you ask me.

#42 - misiozol - 152w ago
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Well something tells me that they will only update hardware so is more efficient has more computing power and better graphics, but i do not see this coming in near future as ps3 is holding strong and rumors are like bitches nothing comes good from them

#41 - ps3hen - 152w ago
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This would mean no backwards compatibility with ps3 games damn.

Or they'll have a cut down version of the ps3 hardware built into the first PS4 models, but they will see the chance of porting them and making people pay for them again from the PS store, and remove hardware compatibility for ps3 games in the future models.

#40 - elser1 - 152w ago
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just trying to hype the ps4 up already spreading tid bits around to get you interested.. all a marketing ploy!!

#39 - PS3 News - 152w ago
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Following up on our previous article, today Kotaku (linked above) reports that according to inside sources Sony may be ditching the Cell Processor for the PlayStation 4 console.

Below are the details, to quote: "The PlayStation 4 will not use Sony's Cell processor nor any possible successor to the vaunted chipset that was introduced to the world through the PlayStation 3, gaming industry sources tell Kotaku.

What we're hearing from sources follow a Forbes rumor last week that chip-maker AMD would make the graphics chip for a PS4, a shift from the PS3's use of a graphics chip from AMD rival Nvidia.

The abandonment of the Cell architecture would thrill the many game developers who have struggled with the complex chipset, but it could also be viewed as the admission of a mistake.

Cell was the pet project of PlayStation creator Ken Kutaragi, who dreamed that the chip- a "Power Processing Element" married to eight "Synergistic Processing Elements"- would make the PS3 the most impressive gaming console ever. He spoke of a home equipped with multiple devices that were powered by Cell, all of them linking to each other to increase the computational power driving any of the devices.

Cell was not the revolution Sony hoped and hyped that it would be. It also never managed to make the PS3 appear to be significantly more powerful than the year-older Xbox 360. That could have been the Cell's fault or simply the result of development decisions that compelled game creators to make their games run on both the PS3 and the generally-more-popular XBox 360.

But with no Cell or Cell successor in the PS4, what would Sony do? Here's where the reporting turns to speculation. One theory I've heard is that AMD will provide both the CPU and GPU for the PS4, meaning that AMD, not Sony, would engineer the main processing and graphics chips for the machine. Should AMD be doing that, they could go with the AMD Fusion architecture, which puts CPU and GPU on the same chip.

AMD has already been putting chips like this out (one was considered for the MacBook Air), which would enable Sony to turn to developers and say: you could be working with the PS4 architecture right now; just work on an AMD Llano chip or something.

Would developers like that? They'd have to prefer it to Cell and- what do you know- here's one of gaming history's best programmers, id's John Carmack, saying in an interview with PC Perspective last year that AMD Fusion-style chip architecture is "almost a forgone conclusion" for the future of computing.

A Sony rep declined to comment on this story, citing the company's policy not to comment on rumors and speculation."

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#38 - inginear - 153w ago
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i think the ir was added to the google tv remotes because of cost. ir for remotes is not any more useful than bluetooth. in fact ir is less useful because you need to point the remote at the device for it to work properly. it would be nice if the ps4 will make use of the ps3 controllers that everyone already has. and if it does, that would allow more time for the development of the actual console instead of some off the wall controller that will be canceled like the boomerang controller.

#37 - ImCoKeMaN - 153w ago
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Wonder if they will allow it to use IR it seems they have completely switched to Bluetooth despite adding ir transmitters in their google tv remotes since they know it's still useful.

#36 - Prince Valiant - 153w ago
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I prefer single cards, I just mentioned the 6990 because the card has top notch power.

As for drivers, I've never had trouble with nVidia or ATI drivers.

#35 - jarvis - 153w ago
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I'm thinking you don't work in an engineering field. Engineers will know best what they should use, but some crappy manager will end up making the decision based purely on cost. Outside of small start-ups, engineers usually are told what to do/build and don't get the final decision. It's gets extremely frustrating.

That said, I don't care if the PS4 cures cancer I'm still not buying it. Sony craps on its customers constantly and really doesn't care about the customer experience or what their customers ask for. I can only imagine all of the tracking of usage and personal data they will be collecting, you know cause of the piracy boogeyman and all. I've supported all of Sony's consoles up to the PS3 and I've had it with the way they treat paying customers. No Vita, no PS4. Screw you Sony.

I've been playing Skyrim on PC and I think that will be my platform of choice. I think Steam is a great compromise between securing their games and not screwing the people who have purchased games. It's not perfect, but at least I won't get a root kit or something similar, which is exactly what Sony would do (and has in the past with their music CDs...).

#34 - Neo Cyrus - 153w ago
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The 6990 is a dual GPU card, I doubt they would EVER use two GPUs and if they did it certainly wouldn't be something that actually costs money like a Cayman chip. If they really cared they would have worked with AMD to create a custom GPU based on the HD 7000's architecture.

As for on a PC... stay away from dual GPU cards, especially crossfire, AMD probably had the worst driver track-record in history in 2011. Even with a single 6970 I had problems up the wazoo.

 

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