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87w ago - Following up on yesterday's PlayStation 4 / PS4 announcement and PlayStation 4 / PS4 trailer videos, today Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida confirmed that PlayStation 4 / PS4 won't block the use of second-hand (used) games.

To quote from Eurogamer (linked above): "Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida has told Eurogamer that PlayStation 4 will not block the use of second-hand games, contrary to various reports, speculation and even a Sony patent unearthed last month.

I sat down with Yoshida a few hours after the PS4 reveal tonight and one of the first things I asked was whether used games would be blocked.

"Do you want us to do that?" he asked.

No, I said. I think, if you buy something on a disc, that you have a kind of moral contract with the person you've bought it from that you retain some of that value and you can pass it on.

Do you agree, I asked?

"Yes. That's the general expectation by consumers," said Yoshida. "They purchase physical form, they want to use it everywhere, right? So that's my expectation."

So if someone buys a PlayStation 4 game, I asked, you're not going to stop them reselling it?

"Aaaah," was Yoshida's initial answer, but seemingly only because he'd forgotten his line. "So what was our official answer to our internal question?" he asked his Japanese PR advisor. The advisor stepped in but didn't seem to answer clearly, at least to my ears. Yoshida then took control again firmly:

"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?"

I said I thought that was fine.

Interestingly, I also spoke to a Sony source elsewhere at the event this evening who told me that the anti used-game patent discovered last month was actually nothing to do with PlayStation 4 at all.

The patent suggested that discs would come branded with a contactless tag that could be recognised and read by your console, which would then bind it to you and prevent you from selling it on.

But whatever reason Sony did have for patenting it, it sounds like it wasn't for its next-generation console. Hopefully Microsoft will also avoid this ludicrous technology with its next-generation Xbox as well."




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#8 - rumblpak - 87w ago
Quote Originally Posted by StanSmith View Post
Everything on the PC these days is x64 but they make the PS4 x86? Proof the PC will be better. And 8GB ram? Again the PC kicks its rear.


Its not x86, its x86_64 which is the technical designation for x64. x64 is actually a misnomer since its just an extension on x86 and not really 64bit computing. Most operating systems, including linux, mac, and windows only populate 44bits of address space so you really only have 44bit computing. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64)

Also, the 8GB ram that you say lacks power is actually GDDR5 which is equivalent to what they use on graphics cards today. PCs will be moving to DDR4 later next year (I could be wrong here), so this is actually a significant power hike to the playstation environment.

However, do I think or expect that the new xbox will be any better? Probably not. What will be interesting will be the amount of security that is placed on both platforms seeing as how new games will essentially be PC games with dedicated controllers. Hell, its a wonder that we even have new consoles rather than a gaming standards compliance specifications that states the specs needed on every computer to run all games made in lets say 2013 for instance.

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#7 - StanSmith - 87w ago
So no pics of the console yet... And the specs are so old. Everything on the PC these days is x64 but they make the PS4 x86? Proof the PC will be better. And 8GB ram? Again the PC kicks its rear.

GPU, I'm guessing its last gen PC version.
HDD, probably something stupid lile 120GB

I'm not impressed at all with it so far. From what I heard its a lot of hype they also did with the PS3 and never delivered so dont expect everything they said to happen. If they wanted a kick ass system make it better than the latest PCs at least.

Oh another thing. They also said the PS3 had a 10 year lifecycle. I dont think the PS3 has been around for 10 years and they are already replacing it.

With the specs of the PS4 it looks like its got a 2 year lifecycle as the specs are already 5 years old at least. My PC is 5 years old and it kicks butt over those specs.

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#6 - PS3 News - 87w ago
Following up on Sony's official PlayStation 4 announcement, below are the PlayStation Meeting 2013, PS4 and video game trailers for everyone to enjoy!

PlayStation 4 / PS4 titles demoed below include Deep Down, Killzone Shadow Fall, inFAMOUS: Second Son, Knack, The Witness, and a DriveClub debut video trailer.

PlayStation Meeting 2013




PlayStation 4 (PS4)




Official DualShock 4 (PS4)




Deep Down (PS4)




Killzone Shadow Fall Announce Trailer (PS4)




inFAMOUS: Second Son (PS4)




Knack Announce Trailer (PS4)




The Witness (PS4)




DriveClub Announce Trailer (PS4)



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#5 - SwordOfWar - 87w ago
Damn, showing the controller and those games and they left with the quickness without showing the console lol

Anyone else surprised at the 8GB of RAM? I was thinking it would be 4GB at the most.

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#4 - PS3 News - 87w ago
That is exactly what I said, and what CJPC replied with HEHE. Below is the PS4 logo from the video footage as well:

s3nint3!
And from the wiki (ps3devwiki.com/wiki/PS4) are some more details:

PS4 Console

  • x86 CPU
  • PC common GPU (capable of 30K polygon rendering)
  • 8GB unified RAM
  • Harddrive storage
  • PS Cloud storage (Gakai) - buy/install part and download the rest while playing, demo's, uploaded gameplay videos (Share)

Controller

  • Lightbar (Move)
  • Touchscreen
  • Share button (live gameplay videostreaming or screenshots to friends or Ushare)

Addon

  • Dual camera (move like)

Interface

  • no longer XMB, but using a Metro like GUI

Crossplatform integration

  • PS Vita (RemotePlay)
  • Tablets
  • Phones

Mediaservices

  • Video Unlimited
  • Music Unlimited
  • MLB.tv
  • Hulu plus
  • Crunchyroll
  • Crackle
  • Vidi
  • Netflix
  • Laugh
  • Epix
  • Neon
  • Facebook
  • Amazon
  • NHL.tv
  • PlayStation Plus
  • Cinema now

Titles

  • Killzone Shadowfall
  • Driveclub (sorta Need for Speed Clubbing)
  • Sucker Punch
  • The Witness (low res Myst/Riven with indypuzzles)
  • Deep Down
  • Final Fantasy
  • Watch_Dogs
  • Diablo III
  • Destiny

PlayStation 4 Middleware Developers List

The recently announced PlayStation 4 has specifications inspired by developers and will give gamers multiple ways to interact with each other and share their gameplay experiences. The following is a list from Sony Computer Entertainment Japan showing the middleware companies lending their technology to PlayStation 4 development.

Game Engines

  • Bitsquid
  • Blitz Games
  • Crytek
  • Epic Games
  • Terathon LLC
  • Vicious Engine

Physics/AI/Animation

  • Babelflux
  • Havok
  • NaturalMotion
  • Nvidia
  • Xaitment

Art/Graphics

  • Allegorithmic
  • Autodesk
  • Confetti Effects
  • Geomerics
  • Matchlock
  • OC3 Entertainment
  • Rad Game Tools
  • Silicon Studio Corporation
  • Simul Software
  • Speed Tree
  • Umbra Software

Audio

  • Audiokinetic
  • CRI Middleware
  • Firelight

Network

  • Agora Games
  • Jenkins Software

Other

  • Deja Tools
  • Xoreax

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