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260w ago - According to Edge Online (linked above), Sega has leaked a confidential [Register or Login to view links] (removed now) of a meeting with SCEA held in August by accidently uploading it to their public FTP site.

Among other things, the document states a March 2010 release for Sony's new Motion Controller in Japan with the ambition of selling 4-5 million units world-wide. No Prices or Bundles are mentioned though, yet.

Furthermore, and for many of you maybe even more interesting, the document states that Sony wants to introduce a PS2 emulator for the PS3, allowing them to sell DreamCast games and "all PS2 titles on PSN".

Unfortunately it doesn't mention any further details or the possibility to play PS2 game discs.

To quote: We've contacted Sony and Sega for comment and have reprinted the document in question in its entirety below:

SCEA Meeting Aug 5th Notes
Aug 6 2009 - DRAFT FOR COMMENTS

Objectives of Meeting
Dyer agreed to regular quarterly meetings with SOA

Sony PS3
• SCEA reiterated plans to sell 13 million PS3s this year
• Big announcement back half of year they can't talk about (potentially price cut of PS3 to reach hardware goals)
• SCEA commented on indexing between PS3 and 360 SKUs, should be around 2:1 to garner most favorable treatment.

Motion Controller
• Spring 2010 launch (March in JP)
• No bundle/pricing details yet, should come Sept 1
• Plan on selling 4-5MM units WW
• SCEA agreed to provide a list of Sega IP that would work well with the motion controller, Virtua Tennis was an example
• Motion Controller support allows easy way to differentiate PS3 SKU
• Other differentiation opportunities include PSP/PS3 interoperability - think of features that would make users want to buy both PS3 and PSP SKUs.

Alpha Protocol
• Michael Foster, product evaluator, said AP felt barely RPG. Initial level too challenging for players. "Mass Effect felt more RPG."
• Review notes sent to John Merlino a few weeks prior. After meeting Gerald mentioned AP is a high priority for his team.

Planet 51
• Sell in of PS3 SKU - SCEA noted that other movie titles on PS3 had underperformed as well (inc. Transformers) this cycle.
• Dyer suggests contacting Susan at Walmart and asking what she wants in the pack to sell this SKU (movie tix etc)
• Other possibilities are Hybrid movie disc (BD 25 or 50 with Game and Movie on same disc).

Bayonetta
• Collectors edition with Bayonetta Action Figure
• Novo recommended launching PSN demo around Xmas based off a Jan 5th Ship date with 2-3 week run out to launch.
• 3-4 weeks is usually ideal demo timing with fresh content every week leading up to launch (trailers, insider video about PG heritage, video blogs).

Vancouver 2010
• HOME, Olympic destination would garner a lot of positive attention from SCEA
• Should be doing same with Bayonetta, Marvel etc. Easy to launch in all territories.
• HOME merchandizing opportunities (clothes etc).

Sonic Racing
• Open to DLC to differentiate PS3 SKU - not ratchet and clank but other characters
o maybe characters from Rare or Fable universes

Yakuza
• Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section (pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game).
• Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles.
• SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity.

AVP
• Another great HOME candidate
• AVP avatars
• Hybrid BD disc with movie

Iron Man 2
• Great candidate for HOME space - explore Tony Stark's lab etc.
• Should have one for Marvel in general.

PSU2
• Could do bundle at GameStop with PSP 30-35K units on UMD, Go, or both.

Valkyria 1937
• Could bundle with PSP as well.

Vanquish and Aliens: CM
• Opportunity for PS3/PSP interoperability (see Eidos Batman, Army of Two, Assassin's Creed for good examples).
• If we offer that SCEA would be really interested in having us at their booth next E3.

Thor
SCEA would like a look at the code soon.

Sonic Anniversary
• Could put out collectors edition with all old sonic games on one BD disc.
• "Best of Sonic" for around $99.
• SCEA would love PSN exclusive power ups/different game modes (like Castlevania's flip it over/backwards)

PS2 Emulator for PS3
• SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc)
• For co Marketing money show PS3 controller on TV ads - similar to EA Madden Spots, NCAA, etc...

London Olympics
• Perfect opportunity for Motion Controller integration.

DC Digital Titles
• If we provide a list of DC titles SCEA will let us know which ones they're interested in having exclusively.
• If we give them a long period of exclusivity they'll give us more marketing support.

PSP Titles
• For SKU differentiation it's best to offer features that are slightly different from PS3 version.
• Titles that are coming up on PSP are Assassin's Creed II, GTA China Wars, Resident Evil, Little Big Planet - all massive franchises.
• SCEA has a specific PSP deck which they can send up with their hardware director for a chat.



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CJPC's Avatar
#20 - CJPC - 260w ago
Quote Originally Posted by zefie View Post
As for GD-ROM support, it seems there is no special laser wavelengths going on, and that a firmware update could definitely tell the BD-ROM in the PS3 how to read these discs.

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As crazy as it sounds, the PS3 BD drive might be too fast - if you recall how the GD rom drive worked, essentially it ran at half speed (which, doubled the capacity) - would be cool if they could get the disks working, but well, I really doubt that would happen.

reno5gtt's Avatar
#19 - reno5gtt - 260w ago
I've still got my dreamcast but it bit the dust a long time ago.

They have to put powerstone 1 and 2 on psn and maybe add an online feature? Used to love playing that with a few mates round and a few beers.

Think also....

Sonic adventure 1 and 2
Resident evil code veronica

....would go down well and that the dreamcast controls would work well on the ps3 controller.

X3nophon's Avatar
#18 - X3nophon - 260w ago
This whole story reminds me of the PSP. There Sony added a PSX emulator with firmware 3.00. It was supposed to only work with downloaded PSX games from the PSN. Back then Dark_Alex found a way to convert normal PSX disc images into the appropriate format for the PSP emulator.

I would think that it should be easy to construct a similar Poploader for PS2 games on the PS3, once it gets hacked. Sony would make a first step into that direction with the emulator.

adrianc1982's Avatar
#17 - adrianc1982 - 260w ago
Quote Originally Posted by nasomi View Post
They wouldn't need to release all these other games if they'd just bring some damned games from JP to NA.

I have a 20gb, so I'm good to go, but I still find myself not playing any ps2 games on it after I beat ffxii. I really have no desire to play any others. I had a PS1 in the DC days, and a PS2, I am comfortable that I played all those games a sufficient amount that I can comfortably put them to rest and move on. I'm waiting on titles from japan to make it over first. If they brought them over, I'd pay for them, and they wouldn't need to make ps2 games work. I want new content personally.

Seriously not everyone got a chance to play all the titles (most of us didnt) and neither we got a chance to play them enough. This year for example I played for the first time chrono trigger and last year for the first time final fantasy vii. I didnt play a lot of great titles, I did play many but not all and certanly not enough legendary games.

My ps3 is bc and I really would like to see ps2 games on the psn its cheap, easy and confortable.

krel's Avatar
#16 - krel - 260w ago
I would be well pleased if this news is true, especially if they choose 2 give the games a resolution boost to make them look good on an HDTV

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