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Rumor: PS4 (Orbis) Details Revealed by German PSM3 Magazine


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92w ago - A few weeks ago we reported that on the rumor that PlayStation 4 developer kits were shipping and based on the AMD A10, and now PSM3's German edition (via [Register or Login to view links]) has shared some new PS4 (Orbis) rumor details below.

To quote from Gameranx.com (linked above): "First off, the magazine states that the PS4 won't even be named the PS4. While it will still have the "PlayStation" name attached to it, there won't be a number 4 next to it.

The reason is that the number 4 is pronounced "Shi" in Japan and in Chinese. "Shi" also has the same sound as "death" so that makes it a very unlucky number for a lot of people in the world. It's so reviled that "many hospitals in Japan have therefore no room with the number 4 or even a fourth floor - similar to a few high-rise buildings in the West no 13th Floor have."

The PS4's codename, which is now known as Orbis, could even be part of the final name. For the rest of the details, read on below (via NeoGAF).

Second Games of the first generation will look like the high-end PC demos on watchdogs and Star Wars 1313 or Square Enix's Luminous tech demo.

  • PS4 demos to be shown by Sony at E3 2013th
  • PS4 games will not run well at 4K 'Ultra HD' resolution.
  • The standard resolution of the PS4 should be at 1080p and 60 fps.
  • If 4k can be used, then probably only for videos.
  • Used games are not readily run on the PS4.
  • Sony is planning certain protections in the PS4, including perhaps an online pass or something similar.
  • The memory should be at 4GB to 8GB
  • The PS4 will probably have 4GB of memory, but in the end could have 8GB: If the Microsoft Xbox 360 successor have 8GB memory, then Sony would be put under pressure and should follow suit.
  • 16GB flash memory are planned.
  • The PS4 will not be backwards compatible with PS3 games.
  • Games need to be registered to PlayStation Network account.
  • The paid premium service PlayStation Plus will be an important pillar of the PS4.
  • Every PS4 should be shipped with a PS Move compatible controller and camera.
  • Classic games will be available via cloud gaming (Gaikai).
  • "In-Game" Advertising is to keep on the PS4 collection.
  • The console will use an AMD Accelerated Processor (4 cores). The chip carries the code name "Liverpool" and is produced in a 28-nanometer process.
  • The PS4 will cost about EUR 400 to EUR 500 in Europe, where Sony has here probably expect to lose.

According to the post, Sony has not commented, denied or confirmed the info listed above."

From Gsak (via neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=500106) comes another translation as follows:

Forecast: Details about PS4 from PSM3 Magazine

16.11.12 - The British magazine PSM3 has published in its latest issue a report on the PS4. In it, the magazine has compiled all relevant notifications to next generation console from Sony and talked to developers and other sources.

1. The console does not mean PS4

  • The PlayStation brand will be present in the device name, but not the 4th
  • The number 4 in Japan is pronounced "shi". "Shi" also means death. Many hospitals in Japan have therefore no room with the number 4 or even a fourth floor - similar to a few high-rise buildings in the West no 13th Floor have.
  • The code name of the console is - as reported - currently Orbis and could perhaps later be part of the final name.

2. Games of the first generation will look like the high-end PC demos on watchdogs and Star Wars 1313 or Square Enix's Luminous tech demo.

  • PS4 demos to be shown by Sony at E3 2013th

3. PS4 games will not run well at 4K 'Ultra HD' resolution.

  • The standard resolution of the PS4 should be at 1080p and 60 fps.
  • If 4k can be used, then probably only for videos.

4. Used games are not readily run on the PS4.

  • Sony is planning certain protections in the PS4, including perhaps an online pass or something similar.

5. The memory should be at 4GB to 8GB

  • The PS4 will probably have 4GB of memory, but in the end could have 8GB: If the Microsoft Xbox 360 successor have 8GB memory, then Sony would be put under pressure and should follow suit.

6. 16GB flash memory are planned.
7. The PS4 will not be backwards compatible with PS3 games.
8. Games need to be registered to PlayStation Network account.
9. The paid premium service PlayStation Plus will be an important pillar of the PS4.
10. Every PS4 should be shipped with a PS Move compatible controller and camera.
11. Classic games will be available via cloud gaming (Gaikai).
12. "In-Game" Advertising is to keep on the PS4 collection.
13. The console will use an AMD Accelerated Processor (4 cores). The chip carries the code name "Liverpool" and is produced in a 28-nanometer process.
14. The PS4 will cost about EUR 400 to EUR 500 in Europe, where Sony has here probably expect to lose.

Sony has not commented or confirmed the information.

Finally, from [Register or Login to view links] to quote: Hi everybody and Happy New Year !!! We expect many great things for the new year.

To inaugurate the new year we have some new info about the next generation console manufactured by Sony: Orbis.

In this case we have the earlier roadmap.

  • 2011 June/July - PC with Win7 64-bit and a "jailbroken" ATI r9 graphics card
  • 2011 Sept/Oct - PC with Win7 64-bit and a "jailbroken" ATI r10 graphics card
  • 2012 Q1 - disclosure to more developers
  • 2012 E3 - potential unveiling window start
  • 2012 Jul - devkits for engineers writing OS
  • 2012 Q3 - first true hardware prototype devkits
  • 2013 E3 - potential unveiling window end
  • 2013 Q4 - launch




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SwordOfWar's Avatar
#70 - SwordOfWar - 81w ago
Even at 3.5GB shared over the system, that's considerably more than what the PS3 has and should allow developers to breathe a lot more than they have before on console games.

I'm expecting faster loading now, and higher quality textures. Hopefully the 500MB system reserved memory is enough to let us multitask like we wanted to do on the PS3 but never really got it due to RAM limitations (Think in-game XMB limitations and how long it took to even get it).

PC games are only going to look better on a high end gaming PC, not just your average PC. That means a PC costing at least $1,000 compared to a console that will cost around $500. People don't want to spend insane amounts of money on a closed system that can't be upgraded which will be overshadowed by the next generation system about 7 years later. The PS3 launch was evidence of that with it's $600 price tag.

Now I'm all for better hardware specs, but I don't think people are willing to pay enough to get what you are looking for in a console. People with money build a gaming PC, people with a lower upfront budget will probably be happy with a console. There are two different niches there, and it wouldn't really make sense for consoles to try to be a direct competitor to PC since PC would obviously win due to the nature of how consoles are (closed system, no upgrade path).

If you really want that premium experience, you're going to have to buy premium PC parts and build your own PC, and be willing to shell out a greater amount of upfront money (assuming you don't already own a gaming machine to upgrade just certain parts).

With all that said, just the fact the memory is unified and much larger than before should be heaven for developers coming from the PS3.

henkdejostie's Avatar
#69 - henkdejostie - 81w ago
i get your point, but the PS3/4 just wont so much RAM, the ps3 has 256 mb ram for games and 256 mb ram for the system, and you wont have any lagg, and the ps4 gonna have 500 mb to the system memory and 3.5 GB for game RAM, the ps3/4 uses their RAM way more efficient than a PC

JAYRIDER666's Avatar
#68 - JAYRIDER666 - 81w ago
Ps4 and jailbreak nice

StanSmith's Avatar
#67 - StanSmith - 81w ago
Dont forget Sony are good ar dropping specs before its released. They did it with the PS3 and keep doing it with every update of the PS3 and the Vita was first announced with twice the amount of memory its got now.

Just coz they say this is what it will have the final retail version wont have this. Some parts will be shrunk and some will just be missing. then with every update to the console more and more will be removed.

Thats why I'm going to boycott Sony for as long as I can, till they release a game I want to play and only if its not on another console will I get one.

And I dont understand why they make it with 4GB ram? The PC is using a lot more ram and struggling with some games. They really need to look at PCs and see what is needed for the latest games then add that or more so over the years its not looking crap or left behind like it is with the PC.

Oh it looks like 3.5GB ram for games and it looks like thats going to be shared ram between CPU and GPU. MOST PC games will crap out at those specs. So even when the PS4 is released the PC will still be better. I would've expected it to be better than the PC but with those specs it wont be.

myjunkhurts's Avatar
#66 - myjunkhurts - 81w ago
ummmm hurry sony plz

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