58w ago - Following up on the previous PlayStation 4 rumors, today VG247 (linked above) reports that Sony's PlayStation 4 (PS4) developer kits are now shipping and utilize the AMD A10 series as a base.
Below are the details, to quote: "Developers are currently taking receipt of a new PlayStation 4 dev kit, VG247 has been told today, with a final version slated to appear in January. Yes, it'll have Blu-ray. No, it isn't being made in Japan.
Multiple sources have confirmed to VG247 today that a new version of the Orbis kit is now shipping to developers, and that it's housed in a normal PC case.
There are to be four versions of the dev kit, we were told. A previous version was essentially just a graphics card. The version shipping now is a "modified PC," and the third version, appearing in January, will be close to final spec. A final version will be delivered to developers "next summer".
Some US developers attended a "disclosure meeting" at Sony's offices this week, with a further meeting to take place in the coming weeks. The purpose of the meeting is for Sony to tell studios what the machine is designed to do, to detail hardware and to show a set of presentations.
Our source told us that Sony is only calling the machine Orbis, and is not using the words "PlayStation 4″ in these meetings at all.
Orbis, we were told today, is based on the AMD's A10 APU series. An APU (Accelerated Processing Unit) is a combined CPU and GPU.
PS4′s APU was described today as a "derivative" of existing A10 hardware. The hardware is "based on A10 system and base platform".
The "ultimate goal" for the hardware, we were told, is for it to be able to run 1080p60 games in 3D with "no problem," to create a machine that's powerful enough for "today and tomorrow's market".
The dev kits have "either 8Gb or 16Gb of RAM. Deduce from that what you will." The hardware is not being made in Japan, it was said.
When asked if PS4 will have an optical drive, specifically Blu-ray, our source responded: "Of course it has." We've been told the hard drive will be 256Gb "as standard," but it's not clear if it'll be a normal HDD or a solid state drive.
We were told that Sony's aim with Orbis is to avoid problems involved in launching PS3 by creating something "very affordable" but that "isn't a slouch".
The machine has WiFi and Ethernet connectivity and HDMI out. Our source said the was "no difference" between PlayStation 3 and Orbis input/output.
The UI, however, has been revamped. It was said today that players will now be able to press the PS button mid-game and travel "anywhere" on the system. An example given was buying DLC from the PS Store mid-game then seamlessly returning to play.
"They're trying to make it as fluid as possible," our source said.
We were also told that the machine will be designed to accept system and product updates in the background, and that it'll "always be in standby mode". When you set the console up, we were told, you'll be asked if you want to allow background downloads. You can, of course, disallow them.
No details have been given on the pad as yet. Confirmation is expected this month. Orbis is expected to be announced at an event "just before E3″ next year."
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Even at 3.5GB shared over the system, that's considerably more than what the PS3 has and should allow developers to breathe a lot more than they have before on console games.
I'm expecting faster loading now, and higher quality textures. Hopefully the 500MB system reserved memory is enough to let us multitask like we wanted to do on the PS3 but never really got it due to RAM limitations (Think in-game XMB limitations and how long it took to even get it).
PC games are only going to look better on a high end gaming PC, not just your average PC. That means a PC costing at least $1,000 compared to a console that will cost around $500. People don't want to spend insane amounts of money on a closed system that can't be upgraded which will be overshadowed by the next generation system about 7 years later. The PS3 launch was evidence of that with it's $600 price tag.
Now I'm all for better hardware specs, but I don't think people are willing to pay enough to get what you are looking for in a console. People with money build a gaming PC, people with a lower upfront budget will probably be happy with a console. There are two different niches there, and it wouldn't really make sense for consoles to try to be a direct competitor to PC since PC would obviously win due to the nature of how consoles are (closed system, no upgrade path).
If you really want that premium experience, you're going to have to buy premium PC parts and build your own PC, and be willing to shell out a greater amount of upfront money (assuming you don't already own a gaming machine to upgrade just certain parts).
With all that said, just the fact the memory is unified and much larger than before should be heaven for developers coming from the PS3.
i get your point, but the PS3/4 just wont so much RAM, the ps3 has 256 mb ram for games and 256 mb ram for the system, and you wont have any lagg, and the ps4 gonna have 500 mb to the system memory and 3.5 GB for game RAM, the ps3/4 uses their RAM way more efficient than a PC
Dont forget Sony are good ar dropping specs before its released. They did it with the PS3 and keep doing it with every update of the PS3 and the Vita was first announced with twice the amount of memory its got now.
Just coz they say this is what it will have the final retail version wont have this. Some parts will be shrunk and some will just be missing. then with every update to the console more and more will be removed.
Thats why I'm going to boycott Sony for as long as I can, till they release a game I want to play and only if its not on another console will I get one.
And I dont understand why they make it with 4GB ram? The PC is using a lot more ram and struggling with some games. They really need to look at PCs and see what is needed for the latest games then add that or more so over the years its not looking crap or left behind like it is with the PC.
Oh it looks like 3.5GB ram for games and it looks like thats going to be shared ram between CPU and GPU. MOST PC games will crap out at those specs. So even when the PS4 is released the PC will still be better. I would've expected it to be better than the PC but with those specs it wont be.