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    [Answered] BD drive / Remarry without PS3 downgrade help?

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    Hi, I got a used PS3 Slim CECH3004A, production code 1B. The description said problems with BD drive.

    So when I opened it, I immediately realised the connector to plug in the 8 connection strip for the mechanic sensors and the electrical motor was ripped off from the board.

    First I tried to resolder it, but it made only problems because the white plastic strip was totally messed, so I soldered a cable with 6 lines from the board directly to the sensor/motor board long enough to get the drive in and out of the case without ripping it from the board, but diameter of the lines big enough that improved resistance by improved length won't be a problem (I could decrease from 8 to 6 because the motor had 2 lines for VCC and 2 for GND).

    I also checked for connections between my soldering, but everything is fine. So when I insert a disc, it properly pulls it in and the disc begins to spin. You can see first the blue laser trying to read, then the red one. In XMB the clock rotates, so I think the drive is detected properly.

    But the PS3 won't read the disc. It doesn't matter if it's a BLURAY DVD, a PS3 game disc, a normal DVD or an audio cd, none is accepted.

    Also I realized that half of the screws of the BD drive are missing, so I guess there was a specialist doing its best on this one.

    The lasers are both working, may the lense also be broken? How can I check if the laser/lense part is broken or maybe a connection on the data cable (as I said, I don't think the pre-owner was qualified to even change the hard disk, fooool).

    As the clock in XMB rotates, I guess the drive is the original one, right?

    So I would like to know:

    * Is there a way to check if it's the lense/laser unit or the cable?
    * If I could get a complete new BD drive, would it be possible to remarry it to my board?

    As I said, it's a CECH3004 with Firmware 4.55, so afaik it's not downgradeable and I only found tutorials for 3.55 FW.

    regards
    Morgy

    I also made a small video where you can see the laser working when I push the pin for recognizing the drive a disk is inserted, the mechanism loads the disc (I have to help for the sled coming up) when you see the blue laser lightning shortly, then the red one and after a while the blue one again.





    Also made a vid to see the drive pulling in a dvd and trying to read, maybe it may help as you can see, it doesn't throw out the disc at reading end.



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    OK I ordered a new laser unit, replaced the old one and WOW the ps3 works again. Thanks a lot windrider.

    But it would be nice if someone could answer the questions about hardware mod?

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    I would think according to troubleshooting tips, that is faulty lens:

    http://www.ps3news.com/forums/ps3-he...lp-124056.html

    The disk is accepted, ejects fine, loading wheel present.

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    veeeery nice instruction, thanks. So i'll order a new lense/laser unit and try it.

    Anyway, I would like to know if it's possible to remarry on this PS3, cause as I said it won't be downgradeable.

    By the way, why is this? Newer version of NOR chips on the mainboard? Would it be possible then if I solder in older/other NOR chips?

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    No it is not possible to remarry on this particular PS3, as the Logic board is on the mobo, not the blu ray drive itself. So they they don't need remarry.

    Downgrade is not possible on these PS3 as they are higher than 3.55 minimum firmware versions (ps3devwiki.com/ps3/SKU_Models):
    Code:
    PS3 Fat (Alpha series)
    
    FCC ID: AK8CBEH1000
    Prototype: CBEH1000
    
    Model / Type / Board / Flash / HDD / HDMI / CEC / OtherOS / PS2 mode / SA-CD / WiFi 802.11 b/g / CELL BE / RSX / Watt/Max / USB Ports / Flash Readers / SKU Release date / FW @ Release date / Downgradeable Min. praxis
    
    CECHAxx 	0x01 	COK-001 	2x 128MB NAND 	60GB 	No 	Yes 	HW 	Yes 	Yes 	90nm 	90nm 	200/380 	4 	Yes 	8/2006 	1.00 	1.00
    CECHAxx 	0x01 	COK-001 	2x 128MB NAND 	60GB 	No 	Yes 	HW 	Yes 	Yes 	90nm 	90nm 	200/380 	4 	Yes 	8/2007 	1.90 	-
    CECHBxx 	0x02 	COK-001 	2x 128MB NAND 	20GB 	No 	Yes 	HW 	Yes 	No 	90nm 	90nm 	200/380 	4 	No 	8/2006 	1.00 	1.00
    CECHBxx 	0x02 	COK-001 	2x 128MB NAND 	20GB 	No 	Yes 	HW 	Yes 	No 	90nm 	90nm 	200/380 	4 	No 	4/2007 	1.70 	-
    CECHCxx 	0x03 	COK-002 	2x 128MB NAND 	60GB 	No 	Yes 	SW 	Yes 	Yes 	90nm 	90nm 	200/380 	4 	Yes 	8/2006 	1.50 	1.00
    CECHCxx 	0x03 	COK-002 	2x 128MB NAND 	60GB 	No 	Yes 	SW 	Yes 	Yes 	90nm 	90nm 	200/380 	4 	Yes 	8/2007 	1.90 	-
    CECHDxx 	SKU never released
    CECHExx 	0x04 	COK-002
       or
    COK-002W 	2x 128MB NAND 	80GB 	No 	Yes 	SW 	Yes 	Yes 	90nm 	90nm 	200/380 	4 	Yes 	8/2007 	1.90 	1.00
    CECHFxx 	SKU never released
    CECHGxx 	0x05 	SEM-001 	2x 128MB NAND 	40GB 	No 	Yes 	No 	No 	Yes 	65nm 	90nm 	160/280 	2 	No 	10/2007 	1.94 	1.90 or 2.30
    CECHHxx 	0x06 	DIA-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	40GB 	No 	Yes 	No 	No 	Yes 	65nm 	90nm 	160/280 	2 	No 	10/2007 	1.00 	1.00 or 2.30
    CECHIxx 	SKU never released
    CECHJxx 	0x07 	DIA-002 	1x 16MB NOR 	40GB
       or
    40GB 	No 	Yes 	No 	No 	Yes 	65nm 	65nm 	140/280 	2 	No 	8/2008 	2.42 	2.30
    CECHKxx 	0x07 	DIA-002 	1x 16MB NOR 	80GB 	No 	Yes 	No 	No 	Yes 	65nm 	65nm 	140/280 	2 	No 	8/2008 	2.42 	2.16 or 2.30
    CECHLxx 	0x08 	VER-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	80GB
       or
    80GB
       or
    80GB 	No 	Yes 	No 	No 	Yes 	65nm 	65nm 	140/280 	2 	No 	10/2008 	2.50 	2.30 or 2.45
    CECHMxx 	0x08 	VER-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	80GB 	No 	Yes 	No 	No 	Yes 	65nm 	65nm 	140/280 	2 	No 	10/2008 	2.50 	-
    CECHNxx 	SKU never released
    CECHOxx 	SKU never released
    CECHPxx 	0x08 	VER-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	160GB
       or
    160GB 	No 	Yes 	No 	No 	Yes 	65nm 	65nm 	140/280 	2 	No 	10/2008 	2.50 	2.45
    CECHQxx 	0x08 	VER-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	160GB 	No 	Yes 	No 	No 	Yes 	65nm 	65nm 	140/280 	2 	No 	4/2009 	2.70 	-
    
    PS3 Slim (2000 series)
    
    FCC ID: XCET12NA28K
    Prototype: CBEH2000
    
    Model / Type / Board / Flash / HDD / HDMI / CEC / OtherOS / PS2 mode / SA-CD / WiFi 802.11 b/g / CELL BE / RSX / Watt/Max / USB Ports / Flash Readers / SKU Release date / FW @ Release date / Downgradeable Min. praxis
    
    CECH-20xxA 	0x09 	DYN-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	120GB
       or
    120GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	65nm 	100/250 	2 	No 	9/2009 	2.76 	2.70
    CECH-20xxB 	0x09 	DYN-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	250GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	65nm 	100/250 	2 	No 	9/2009 	2.76 	2.70
    CECH-21xxA 	0x0A 	SUR-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	120GB
       or
    120GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	3/2010 	3.21 	3.20 or 3.40
    CECH-21xxB 	0x0A 	SUR-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	250GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	3/2010 	3.21 	3.20 or 3.40
    CECH-25xxA 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	120GB
       or
    120GB
       or
    160GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	7/2010 	3.40 	3.40
    CECH-25xxB 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	250GB
       or
    320GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	7/2010 	3.40 	3.40
    CECH-25xxA 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	120GB
       or
    120GB
       or
    160GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	9/2010 	3.40 	3.40 or 3.50
    CECH-25xxB 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	250GB
       or
    320GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	9/2010 	3.50 	3.40 or 3.50
    CECH-25xxA 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	160GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	1/2011 	3.56 	3.50  1
    CECH-25xxB 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	320GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	1/2011 	3.56 	3.50  1
    CECH-25xxA 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	160GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	1/2011 	3.56 	3.56  1
    CECH-25xxB 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	320GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	1/2011 	3.56 	3.56  1
    CECH-25xxA 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	160GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	4/2011 	3.56 	3.56  2
    CECH-25xxB 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	320GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	4/2011 	3.56 	3.56  2
    CECH-25xxA 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	160GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	4/2011 	3.60 	3.60  2
    CECH-25xxB 	0x0B 	JTP-001
      or
    JSD-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	320GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/250 	2 	No 	4/2011 	3.60 	3.60  2
    
    Notes:
    
    1) Datecode 1A: Use get_applicable_version.pkg to receive lower/upper UDP broadcasts or use fake lowverchk PUP to get it onscreen. If minverchk is 3.50, it is downgradable to 3.55. If minverchk is 3.56, it has metldr and fails downgrade to 3.55 with blackscreen and shutdowns in 1-2sec without blinking LEDs/beeps but it is hackable because you can install 4.xx MFWs by using 4.30 checkoff, which allows you to install without downgrading (requires Hardware Flashers) 
    
    2) Datecode 1B : Not downgradable to 3.55 but might be hackable. Use get_applicable_version.pkg to receive lower/upper UDP broadcasts or use fake lowverchk PUP to get it onscreen. If minverchk is 3.56, it has metldr and fails downgrade to 3.55 with blackscreen and shutdowns in 1-2sec without blinking LEDs/beeps but it is hackable because you can install 4.xx MFWs by using 4.30 checkoff, which allows you to install without downgrading (requires Hardware Flashers). If minverchk is 3.60, it has new metldr2 of 63.776 bytes and fails downgrade to 3.55 with blackscreen and shutdowns in 8sec without blinking LEDs/beeps and is not hackable 
    
    PS3 Slim (3000 series)
    
    FCC ID: AK8CBEH18C1
    Prototype: CBEH3000
    
    Model / Type / Board / Flash / HDD / HDMI / CEC / OtherOS / PS2 mode / SA-CD / WiFi 802.11 b/g / CELL BE / RSX / Watt/Max / USB Ports / Flash Readers / SKU Release date / FW @ Release date / Downgradeable Min. praxis
    
    CECH-30xxA 	0x0C 	KTE-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	160GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/210 	2 	No 	7/2011 	3.66 	3.60
    CECH-30xxB 	0x0C 	KTE-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	320GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	80/210 	2 	No 	7/2011 	3.66 	3.60
    
    PS3 SuperSlim (4000 series)
    
    FCC ID: AK8CBEH19C1
    Prototype: CBEH4000
    
    Model / Type / Board / Flash / HDD / HDMI / CEC / OtherOS / PS2 mode / SA-CD / WiFi 802.11 b/g / CELL BE / RSX / Watt/Max / USB Ports / Flash Readers / SKU Release date / FW @ Release date / Downgradeable Min. praxis
    
    CECH-40xxA 	0x0D 	MPX-001
       or
    MSX-001
       or
    NPX-001 	16GB eMMC 	12GB free
    16GB total
    option.exp. 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	75/190 	2 	No 	09/2012 	4.31 	4.25
    CECH-40xxB 	0x0D 	MPX-001
       or
    MSX-001
       or
    NPX-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	250GB
       or
    500GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	75/190 	2 	No 	09/2012 	4.11 	 ?4.10?
    CECH-40xxC 	0x0D 	MPX-001
       or
    MSX-001
       or
    NPX-001 	1x 16MB NOR 	250GB
       or
    500GB 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	75/190 	2 	No 	09/2012 	4.11 	 ?4.10?
    CECH-42xxA 	 ?0x0E? 	 ?MPX-001?
       or
    ?MSX-001?
       or
    ?NPX-001? 	16GB eMMC 	 ?12GB free
    16GB total?
    ?option.exp.? 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	 ?75/190? 	2 	No 	06/2013 	4.45 	 ?4.45?
    CECH-42xxB 	 ?0x0E? 	 ?MPX-001?
       or
    ?MSX-001?
       or
    ?NPX-001? 	1x 16MB NOR 	 ?250GB?
       or
    ?500GB? 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	 ?75/190? 	2 	No 	06/2013 	4.45 	 ?4.45?
    CECH-42xxC 	 ?0x0E? 	 ?MPX-001?
       or
    ?MSX-001?
       or
    ?NPX-001? 	1x 16MB NOR 	 ?250GB?
       or
    ?500GB? 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	 ?75/190? 	2 	No 	06/2013 	4.45 	 ?4.45?
    CECH-42xxA 	 ?0x0E? 	 ?PQX-001? 	16GB eMMC 	 ?12GB free
    16GB total?
    ?option.exp.? 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	 ?75/190? 	2 	No 	09/2013 	4.46 	 ?4.45?
    CECH-42xxB 	 ?0x0E? 	 ?PQX-001? 	1x 16MB NOR 	 ?250GB?
       or
    ?500GB? 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	 ?75/190? 	2 	No 	09/2013 	4.46 	 ?4.45?
    CECH-42xxC 	 ?0x0E? 	 ?PQX-001? 	1x 16MB NOR 	 ?250GB?
       or
    ?500GB? 	Yes 	No 	No 	No 	Yes 	45nm 	40nm 	 ?75/190? 	2 	No 	09/2013 	4.46 	 ?4.45?
    As in earlier PS3 BluRay drive daughterboard is paired with PS3 motherboard, so exchanging a BluRay drive requires remarriage of the BluRay daughterboard.

    But this is not the case with your PS3, as the pcb is now on the motherboard.
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    So if I would change the whole drive the sysem wouldn't notice? nice

    I know that the 3004A has a higher firmware when it was produced, but I don't know why it is so important to get the PS3 to OFW 3.55?

    Afaik there are higher CFW like Rogero 4.55 CFW, why is it impossible so update direktly to this CFW?
    And I guess the minimum firmware version is written to a not reprogrammable and not readable ROM on the motherboard?

    Otherwise it should be possible to change this value, or not?

    Sorry I tried to understand and made research but all I found was the explanation "The 3000 series has new hardware which is more difficult to reprogram" or other bs, but when I can upgrade to another OFW, there must be a EEPROM which may be manipulated, or isn't it?

    Thanks

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    Yes it is nice that the pcb was moved to the mobo, so no pairing needed.

    I am not that technical to explain, but yes minimum PS3 firmware version must be 3.55 or lower in order to downgrade.

    Only hardware mods can be installed on your PS3 in order to enjoy CFW

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    What is a hardware mod? In my understanding I have to short the RAM command line (there may be 11, which one doesn't care), and I have to short it repeating some times for 40ns.

    Ok, this will block the command to the RAM, but, as many said before, I don't know which command is sent right now and will be blocked, so can there be any damage to the system by blocking other commands? May the system crash, or may it even be broken?

    So we imagine we blocked the right command, what now? Will the PS3 reboot?Will it bring an error message? How do I know when it successfully blocked the command?

    Next, when we did that successfully, what now? Can I remove the wires now? Or is this procedure necessary all the time?

    Can I remove them after installing a CFW? And finally, how can I now install a CFW? Just by going into safe mode and install via USB stick?

    Sorry but I read many tutorials but none answered this questions, either I'm to dumb or... I don't know

    Also, is there a compilation of where these command lines are for every board version?

    Regards
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    OK I ordered a new laser unit, replaced the old one and WOW the ps3 works again. Thanks a lot windrider.

    But it would be nice if someone could answer the questions about hardware mod?

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    You need a hardware mod installed to your PS3 in order to have CFW or homebrew.

 

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