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    But isn't it useless until we have valid emails and companies?
    and if we have it, it will be recognized by a sony server.

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    hello, i make some research about your question
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    Q1 : We will use an extrenal device through USB port to convert to debug ?
    i think yes, i have see pics about leaked jig software and something i know is visible the file APIDIO.dll require a hardware i know, i work on lan and if i recall, this file is used by CONTEC who purpose a kind of lan adapter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoddi View Post
    But isn't it useless until we have valid emails and companies?
    and if we have it, it will be recognized by a sony server.
    i have read in this thread something about iphone confusion and i know better things on iphone.. just create a fake server is maybe the solution for iphone, the fact where you just patch the exe and add line about fake server in a specific file in winoows was used to make false authentification
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    i think yes, i have see pics about leaked jig software and something i know is visible the file APIDIO.dll require a hardware i know, i work on lan and if i recall, this file is used by CONTEC who purpose a kind of lan adapter.
    Thats good , just don't feel like messing with the hardware of the beast , it bites

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    why do you think the major corporations have not caught onto little things like fake servers for authentication and what not?

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    i'm sorry, I've read this thread a few times ans i'm still kinda lost.

    so far sinnerman has leaked more jig info/ pics/ tools
    skfu has gotten a hold of them and is waiting till he hears from sinnerman before he releases any info.
    since a pic is worth 1000 words i wouldn't dare try to decipher exactly whats going on although i do have a few ideas.

    so in a nutshell, skfu has got access to a jig & we're suppose to wait on pins & needles until there's news of an update.

    if someone would be so kind as to explain to me the importance of a jig to the average joe (even if it can be reverse engineered), if its to have access to a debug, it still wont do any good without an $dk, & knowledge of how to use it.

    Just a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by imtoodvs View Post
    so in a nutshell, skfu has got access to a jig & we're suppose to wait on pins & needles until there's news of an update.

    if someone would be so kind as to explain to me the importance of a jig to the average joe
    As far as I know, only Sinnerman has a JIG at the moment but I believe SKFU is assisting him (via Internet) to see if anything useful can be obtained from it... giving Sinnerman ideas on what to look for, experiment with and so on.

    As to the importance of a JIG, well, this is covered somewhat in the PS3 Dev posts linked in the first post but in short some feel if the process can be replicated (overcoming all the obstacles along the way) then everyone can turn their Retail PS3 consoles into Debug ones.

    Of course then they won't be able to run Blu-ray movies, etc but at least those who had the tools and knowledge could run their own code on them.

    I wouldn't advise waiting on "pins & needles" as you put it though, only because (like most recent progress) if anything important surfaces it will likely be patchable and those who discover it won't release it publically.

    Still, for general news updates it's interesting stuff... especially if some internal JIG pics surface.

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    i have read in this thread something about iphone confusion and i know better things on iphone.. just create a fake server is maybe the solution for iphone, the fact where you just patch the exe and add line about fake server in a specific file in winoows was used to make false authentification
    but the ps3 is not so a crappy like the iPhone.Why?
    Well to authenticate data for the ps3 per net sony use the puplic-key for it.Im sure you can do right now all this cuty iPhone baby hacking stuff also for the PS3 but the point you getting crying will be that the ps3 will not accept the altered data in case that puplic-key is missing!!

    Would be too easy in case of ps3 my forum mate

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    This is interesting news, but I'm a bit confused as to what good will those pics bring? I mean, it's not like ps3 devs will just look at the pic and figure out what circuit board they need to rebuild their own... or is it just to say "proof that we got access to a JIG" ?

    Anyways, I was hoping that maybe someone could just sniff the USB data and be able to spoof/reproduce what is sent to the ps3 and write some code that 'emulates' the JIG, then I'd just be able to plug in my N810, turn its USB port into Host mode, run the little spoof program, and let my PS3 become service mode...

    But what I don't understand is that thing about Sony servers and valid email... I really don't see where it fits in all that.. There's only one possibility that I can see, it's that each PS3 has a unique 'unlock key' that the JIG needs to send it, and by providing the valid email, the application requests that unique key from sony's servers depending on your serial number, and then it programs the JIG to use that key... if that is the case, then we are probably screwed as we wouldn't be able to replicate this unfortunately (unless someone gets access to sony's database and dumps it for us )

    Anyways, I'd really like some more info about this in order to understand it.. I'll see if someone is available over IRC to discuss it

    Thanks for sharing the news, it's awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakarotoks View Post
    This is interesting news, but I'm a bit confused as to what good will those pics bring? I mean, it's not like ps3 devs will just look at the pic and figure out what circuit board they need to rebuild their own...
    Hehe... ye of little faith!

    You'd be amazed at how freaking smart and talented some of the PS3 Devs are... they just don't show it often publically. But yes, that is their intention exactly as they already have the software end and extensive JIG documentation covered, the hardware is the hurdle at the present time with the "JIG/Service Mode" research they have been doing the last 2 years.

    If Sinnerman is able to leak some internal pics out (without losing his job) then it will definitely be a step in the right direction for the Devs who have been working on this.

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    i thought the firmware was on the hdd?

 

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