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    ^^^^

    Happens to me alot,.. it's just a hard reset, nothing to worry about.

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    could it be possible that the put a sort of password or key into each previous update that identifies the next update? Just include that somewhere in the update when it is made etc..

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    In theory..

    I've actually questioned this myself.
    I'm thinking it's on a TIME/DATE basis.
    Like they'd sign each update with the time/date created, then re-sign it with something else.

    Either that or the other way around.

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    If you extract a PUP using PUP Extractor it has the date/time of creation of the pub and puts it on all file content i think it finds it from the HEX in the header of the PUP. Might be the wrong dates but it churns out dates and times which are normally Midnight and they are different dates for each pup. Just to look into but me personally thinks its likley to be something more like the encryption associated with PKG's...what ja ma call it....

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    sounds like it could work...

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    sounds like it could work...
    The BIG problem of ofw is that it is SIGNED !! and we don't know how re-sign it nor what is need to sign it

    If a modified fw will be signed I think that the ps3 will 100% install it without problems ...

    But remember : when you are installing a fw , you are writing on NAND ... so pay attention or you may brick you ps3 ...

    P.S.: At the moment , I think , that the only way to brick a ps3 is writing bad files on the nands ....

    I really hope that you find a way to downgrade

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    A little thinking

    Well, not much thinking at all.
    Obviously, we haven't thought that maybe $ony is using a proprietary encryption algorithm to sign their firmwares.

    This is just a a guess though, but I know right now from an inside source that it is signed with the Firmware Version, and Creation Date, along with the COUNTRY and something else that was there. I don't know.

    No one told me this, but I mean INSIDE SOURCE I mean the PS3 SSL connection monitor program I made.

    Yes, I've managed to make something that can log all the requests from the PS3 HTTPS shit.

    I've been working on it for a week, it's still not done yet.
    But For the past month I've also been working on a way to GET THE PS3 PROXY METHOD TO WORK AGAIN!

    It's frustrating, but I'm not giving up.
    *.dl.playstation.net does not contain these files, instead each PS3 Demo/Game/Theme/etc,. is stored on an akadns server
    I somehow managed to sniff that out from the ssl.

    it's something like this::

    https://http2337.storage.akadns.com/.filesomething75,45^234353465/crap/something.pkg.

    I know it's under https, because http won't let anything connect. I've tried to get the PSN Store to load under firefox, also faking the Firefox useragent, etc.
    That also works under HTTPS.

    I now understand that the ps3 does in fact, not check the size of the file for the dl.playstation.net addresses. instead, checks some stupid server in the region, (cough: US=CHICAGO)
    Somewhere....
    I can say that much so far, but I know if I had a program to fake a WEBSITE ADDRESS IN A LOCAL NETWORK (which I cannot seem to find anymore), I'd be set and could release instructions on this.

    But sadly I can only get Proxomitron to echo all file requests.
    The only things I can "hack" with that is the Firmware check update shit, and also my Infoboard.
    Downloading the files from the akadns server itself requires authentication.
    OR, The request FROM dl.playstation.net..
    I'm still working HARD on this, I know it can be done.
    My PS3 Firmware is still 2.60, and I know there is a way.

    Anyways I'll try to keep everyone posted.

    Speaking of an address emulator, I do remember seeing such a program a long time ago.
    It lets you fake an internet address inside a local network.
    Something like a re-direct, but not really.

    Does anyone have this program? I forgot the name totally.
    Last edited by ionbladez; 05-23-2009 at 11:20 PM Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Smile Some data?

    I've found out that the Packages from the PSN Store, ARE IN FACT, named with an encryption algorithm, it may be a standard one, or maybe belong to $ony.

    That's probably how this "proxy method" was fixed;
    I cannot catch any data from the PSN Store as it is sent to the ps3.
    But I can tell you that the package NAMES and directories are all set up to match each other.

    Also, I've managed to redirect "Life with Playstation", to the old "Folding@Home" package.

    So now I have a Folding@Home icon, where my LWP should be.
    It is installed, and displays, but for some reason logs me out then checks for an update..

    I tried redirecting and sniffing the data from the server.
    I got some URL info so I'll post what I found.

    Packages of my interest:
    The "Life With Playstation" Update package:
    Code:
    b0.ww.np.dl.playstation.net/tppkg/np/NPIA00002/NPIA00002_T21/17e2ff397a3100f6/IP9100-NPIA00002_00-0000111122223333-A0100-V0100-PE.pkg?product=0084
    A Demo package I "borrowed" from the PSN.PS3NEWS.COM Area, REDIRECTED, as I said in the last post:
    Code:
    http://http7233.storage.akadns.net/.7233,9033^256.1218507949./26597/cdn/UP0102/NPUB30022_00/N5nJRLJKpKC8g8NvNeDur9rFVWJU1uJaFeAFs2e2R1WMywLlOh50cgwRX8T8uT7KYKDxmkyNKIkvwHFJYdq7q5gYg7xCQWpQKO7Xe.pkg?product=0084&country=us
    -------------------------
    Now for some PACKET DATA
    Code:
    "777","672.861470","192.168.0.128","192.168.0.104","DPLAY","Unknown (0x7461): Unknown (0x7473)"
    Code:
    0000   00 1a 73 b1 43 66 00 1f a7 1e 50 e9 08 00 45 00  ..s.Cf....P...E.
    0010   00 a9 ed 35 40 00 40 06 ca e0 c0 a8 00 80 c0 a8  ...5@.@.........
    0020   00 68 d8 29 13 8b 6c c9 0e fe 97 3d 0e 4a 80 18  .h.)..l....=.J..
    0030   ff ff 44 16 00 00 01 01 08 0a 00 00 00 00 00 8b  ..D.............
    0040   dc 10 43 4f 4e 4e 45 43 54 20 61 30 2e 77 77 2e  ..CONNECT a0.ww.
    0050   6e 70 2e 64 6c 2e 70 6c 61 79 73 74 61 74 69 6f  np.dl.playstatio
    0060   6e 2e 6e 65 74 3a 34 34 33 20 48 54 54 50 2f 31  n.net:443 HTTP/1
    0070   2e 31 0d 0a 48 6f 73 74 3a 20 61 30 2e 77 77 2e  .1..Host: a0.ww.
    0080   6e 70 2e 64 6c 2e 70 6c 61 79 73 74 61 74 69 6f  np.dl.playstatio
    0090   6e 2e 6e 65 74 0d 0a 50 72 6f 78 79 2d 43 6f 6e  n.net..Proxy-Con
    00a0   6e 65 63 74 69 6f 6e 3a 20 4b 65 65 70 2d 41 6c  nection: Keep-Al
    00b0   69 76 65 0d 0a 0d 0a                             ive....
    This one is a rather larger than normal packet, hard to believe it's just a cert:

    If it DOES contain my login data, please don't steal it. I've already changed my password as of this post..

    Code:
    0000   00 1a 73 b1 43 66 00 22 b0 af ca 17 08 00 45 00  ..s.Cf."......E.
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    0020   00 68 01 bb e7 23 41 7f 87 6e 5b e9 30 dd 50 18  .h...#A..n[.0.P.
    0030   16 d0 0e 6a 00 00 16 03 00 00 4a 02 00 00 46 03  ...j......J...F.
    0040   00 4a 18 b4 44 6e a7 e4 bc 30 13 0d 21 71 36 19  .J..Dn...0..!q6.
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    00c0   02 4a 50 31 29 30 27 06 03 55 04 0a 13 20 53 6f  .JP1)0'..U... So
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    0130   09 06 03 55 04 06 13 02 4a 50 31 0e 30 0c 06 03  ...U....JP1.0...
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    0150   55 04 07 13 09 4d 69 6e 61 74 6f 2d 6b 75 31 29  U....Minato-ku1)
    0160   30 27 06 03 55 04 0a 13 20 53 6f 6e 79 20 43 6f  0'..U... Sony Co
    0170   6d 70 75 74 65 72 20 45 6e 74 65 72 74 61 69 6e  mputer Entertain
    0180   6d 65 6e 74 20 49 6e 63 2e 31 27 30 25 06 03 55  ment Inc.1'0%..U
    0190   04 0b 13 1e 4e 65 74 77 6f 72 6b 20 50 6c 61 74  ....Network Plat
    01a0   66 6f 72 6d 20 53 65 72 76 69 63 65 20 44 65 70  form Service Dep
    01b0   74 2e 31 21 30 1f 06 03 55 04 03 14 18 2a 2e 2a  t.1!0...U....*.*
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    01e0   f7 0d 01 01 01 05 00 03 81 8d 00 30 81 89 02 81  ...........0....
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    02f0   0b 30 09 06 03 55 04 06 13 02 4a 50 31 29 30 27  .0...U....JP1)0'
    0300   06 03 55 04 0a 13 20 53 6f 6e 79 20 43 6f 6d 70  ..U... Sony Comp
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    0320   6e 74 20 49 6e 63 2e 31 1a 30 18 06 03 55 04 03  nt Inc.1.0...U..
    0330   13 11 53 43 45 49 20 44 4e 41 53 20 52 6f 6f 74  ..SCEI DNAS Root
    0340   20 30 35 82 01 00 30 0d 06 09 2a 86 48 86 f7 0d   05...0...*.H...
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    0360   55 25 b8 23 dc 5c 49 57 f3 12 25 c8 cd 2f 02 8b  U%.#.\IW..%../..
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    03e0   1c 5e 02 72 a5 97 c6 2b 89 4c 05 d5 d6 ec d7 05  .^.r...+.L......
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    0400   4e 89 9f fd e9 fb 2e 21 a4 d9 b3 62 d3 66 8a 90  N......!...b.f..
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    0420   67 46 04 5d 45 37 6b 98 c7 44 11 2f 6f 9a ab 16  gF.]E7k..D./o...
    0430   fd ee e4 8c 9f 97 2d ec 40 83 aa ec f3 4a 8d ae  ......-.@....J..
    0440   5a e6 20 7c ae 79 86 ea 3d b7 71 45 cd 2c 6c b0  Z. |.y..=.qE.,l.
    0450   56 41 78 3d b8 2c c5 77 08 28 16 03 00 00 04 0e  VAx=.,.w.(......
    0460   00 00 00                                         ...
    And some DNS Redirect info, etc:
    Code:
    1896	1358.137618	192.168.0.1	192.168.0.104	DNS	Standard query response CNAME a0.ww.np.dl.playstation.net.edgekey.net CNAME e376.g.akamaiedge.net A
    I hope this can come of use to someone that has the tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ionbladez View Post
    Speaking of an address emulator, I do remember seeing such a program a long time ago.
    It lets you fake an internet address inside a local network.
    Something like a re-direct, but not really.

    Does anyone have this program? I forgot the name totally.
    Did you mean SimpleDNS (http://www.simpledns.com/download.aspx) or PowerDNS (http://www.powerdns.com/en/downloads.aspx)? I know both of those have been used here before with PS Proxy stuff...

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    Great work - But again its a case of comparing pre compilled data (encrypted) to decrypted data and seeing how in which they are encrypted. Once we get PKG Algorithm Reversed we can install Custom PKG'S which is a HUGE step in the right direction.

    Problem with the proxy ideas is that we are finding the origin of certain files which is great, but the Sony Store has SSL Encryption which cannot be replicated easily and so we will be unable to create a spoof Sony Store and the PKGS would still be encrypted so unencrypted PKGS will still be unable to be loaded via the PS3...

    Footylad

 


 
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