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    I have both a PS3 and a 360. I had such high hopes for the PS3... and it let me down. But with that said, I must take into account that the features the PS3 are missing were not available on the 360 at it's launch, either. It took a few firmware updates to get all those goodies, save Live, which I don't feel I should have to pay to play with my friends online anyway. Of course one would assume that by delaying the launch so many times because of "hardware production problems" that the software guys would have had time to make adjustments and improvements to the OS.

    If we are to compare the two NOW, then the 360 is winning, hands down. But like the article states, we'll have to wait til Winter 07 to see if, after the developers have gotten the hang of Sony's difficult to program machine, they can really take the games to the next level.

    If Sony wants to win, they have to do the following, at LEAST by the European launch:

    * Fix the 720p issue
    * Upconvert DVDs
    * Greatly improve it's online structure
    * Mulititasking (Background downloading, music in-game, etc.)
    * Get rumble back in the controller

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    Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD

    As far as the HD format war goes, I feel it will take some time but eventually, Blu-ray will win. Picture quality and security is (about) equal with both (however, we've already seen that BackupHD-DVD changed that), but it's all about storage. More storage equals more content and better quality. It's the reason we come out with and transfer to new formats anyway. VHS to DVDs. CDs to MP3 players. Gears of War proved that the 360 can hang with the PS3 in the graphics department despite its medium, but with no plans to use the external HD-DVD player for games, DVD-9s will find itself lacking to hold a lot of extras that gamers will only be able to find on Blu-ray/PS3 with out having to load extra discs. And not that it will ever be used, but Toshiba has gotten up to 200GB on a multilayered Blu-ray disc.......forget putting an entire season of your favorite television show on one disc. You could load an entire SERIES!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddyfatsax112 View Post
    As far as the HD format war goes, I feel it will take some time but eventually, Blu-ray will win. Picture quality and security is (about) equal with both (however, we've already seen that BackupHD-DVD changed that), but it's all about storage. More storage equals more content and better quality. It's the reason we come out with and transfer to new formats anyway. VHS to DVDs. CDs to MP3 players. Gears of War proved that the 360 can hang with the PS3 in the graphics department despite its medium, but with no plans to use the external HD-DVD player for games, DVD-9s will find itself lacking to hold a lot of extras that gamers will only be able to find on Blu-ray/PS3 with out having to load extra discs. And not that it will ever be used, but Toshiba has gotten up to 200GB on a multilayered Blu-ray disc.......forget putting an entire season of your favorite television show on one disc. You could load an entire SERIES!!!
    Totally agree. Yet for some reason, people seem to overlook this fact or downplay it saying its just 'proprietary junk' that will never make it past sony, although almost 3/4 of all movie studios support the format alone so far. i wonder when people will finally at least concede that blu ray will put up some serious competition at a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daddyfatsax112 View Post
    If Sony wants to win, they have to do the following, at LEAST by the European launch:

    * Fix the 720p issue
    * Upconvert DVDs
    * Greatly improve it's online structure
    * Mulititasking (Background downloading, music in-game, etc.)
    * Get rumble back in the controller
    Rumble is pointless. I don't care if they put it back or not because I really don't miss it at all (especially in games that really make full use of the sixaxis like Motorstorm). The rest of what you listed should definitely be fixed. I was slightly bummed to find out that I couldn't listen to my music while I was playing my video games because you can do that with the 360. I'd also like DivX/XviD playback, but that will never happen considering those two codecs are copyrighted and are not for public use.

    As for the Wii, well... Nintendo never really had as many third party titles as Sony and Microsoft had, so I think it will come in last in the console wars just based on less games available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by refuseamen View Post
    Rumble is pointless. I don't care if they put it back or not because I really don't miss it at all (especially in games that really make full use of the sixaxis like Motorstorm). The rest of what you listed should definitely be fixed. I was slightly bummed to find out that I couldn't listen to my music while I was playing my video games because you can do that with the 360. I'd also like DivX/XviD playback, but that will never happen considering those two codecs are copyrighted and are not for public use.

    As for the Wii, well... Nintendo never really had as many third party titles as Sony and Microsoft had, so I think it will come in last in the console wars just based on less games available.
    Sure the divx thing could happen. With linux on ps3, anything is possible.

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    Sony got there asses wooped this last holiday season because they could only get 750,000 consoles out there. Which is why the insane prices for the system occured. But it really boils down to the software and the PS3 developers havnt even spilled the potential of the PS3. It could take a couple years.

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    Sony shipped 1 million in North America.

    Their games suck now, but within the next month they'll pick up. Virtua Fighter 5 and Virtua Tennis 3 are gonna be huge releases for the PS3 and that's not including other games like F.E.A.R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xboxing View Post
    Nope. The porn industry is strictly HD-DVD now. http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2172459/porn-industry-standardises-hd
    from the article

    If true, this seems a bizarre decision by Sony. The adult industry's adoption of the VHS standard is seen is one of the key reasons why Sony's Betamax format lost in the video player market.
    i'd like to see some more proof from a more reputable source than a 3rd rate site like "vnunet".... how about finding the same article on either one of the HD disc sites, HD-DVD or Blu-Ray? definitely don't have the time to look today, but if you or anyone else could find definitive proof on the subject, that would be pretty powerful regarding the HD disc wars! this could get interesting, folks.....

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    The porn industry cited a different reason such as cost and replication issues, not because Sony would not allow it. Which makes me wonder if that article is just speculating based on one guy's experience. Blu-ray is not just a Sony proprietary format, it is owned by a large group of companies/organizations, right? So I don't think Sony could single-handedly ban porn from Blu-ray. It's widely known that's why VHS won out. Why would all those companies put their format at risk?

    But even if it is true....let's assume HD-DVD becomes the primary source for video and wins the "format war." That doesn't mean the PS3 loses. So many analysts have stated that including Blu-ray may have been a mistake because consumers bought the PS3 to play games, not watch movies. Well, if that's so, then this should not affect the PS3. If you wanna watch HD movies, buy an add-on (if Sony doesn't come out with it's own, I'm sure a driver will be created for MS's HD-DVD drive to work on PS3's Linux partition). Either way, Blu-ray discs will still be able to hold WAY more storage for games than DVD-9s, which in turn, leads to richer, fuller, higher quality games.

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    6 months ago some sites claimed the porn industry would make use of BluRay, IMHO this is made up, I don't take that information seriously and with all those xbox fanboys attacks recently I does make me wonder if that just isn't another lame attempt...

 


 
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