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06-11-2005
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ATI: Xbox 360 will outperform PS3???
Article quote from: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/10/news_6127350.html
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"I think PS3 will almost certainly be slower and less powerful," says graphics guru Richard Huddy; backwards-compatibility explained.
In an interview with Web site bit-tech.net, ATI Developer Relations Manager Richard Huddy waxed technical about Microsoft's upcoming Xbox 360 and ATI's role in the machine. The 360 will be using ATI's Xenos graphics processor, and Huddy's job is to chat with potential developers and help them develop the tools that best use Xenos' capabilities.
With regards to the console's architecture, Huddy says, "It's way better than I would have expected at this point in the history of 3D graphics." He sees the unified pipeline, rather than segregated pixel and vertex engines, giving the 360 a huge a huge advantage in accessible processing power.
To solve this, Microsoft has implemented the use of emulator programs that will allow the Xbox 360 to play Xbox games. According to Huddy, "emulating the CPU isn't really a difficult task. ...the real bottlenecks in the emulation are GPU calls--calls made specifically by games to the Nvidia hardware in a certain way. General GPU instructions are easy to convert--an instruction to draw a triangle in a certain way will be pretty generic. However, it’s the odd cases, the proprietary routines, that will cause hassle.” Once complete, the Xbox emulators could come pre-loaded on the unit's hard drive or will be downloadable via Xbox Live.
Huddy also dispels the notion of the PlayStation 3's higher graphics clock speed (550MHz versus the 360's 500MHz) means that Sony's console will outperform the Xbox 360. He believes that its ATI's unified pipeline that will make the biggest difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3. ATI archrival Nvidia, who is providing the RSX graphics processor for the PS3, has chosen not to go the route of a unified pipeline.
"This time around, [Nvidia doesn’t] have the architecture and we do, so they have to knock it and say it isn’t worthwhile. But in the future, they’ll market themselves out of this corner, claiming that they’ve cracked how to do it best. But RSX isn’t unified, and this is why I think PS3 will almost certainly be slower and less powerful."
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After reading this article it sounds biased since the ATI Developer Relations Manager is the source of this presumption.
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06-11-2005
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i will tell you this . . . don't belive what they say until you personaly play them both please . . .
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06-12-2005
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So far the only people that are saying the XBOX is a better system per hardware are Microsoft and their close affiliates that have investments into XBOX360. Many devs have said that Sony has the advantage however. An extra nugget however is that many devs are worried about proging for Sony and think proging for MS will be easy. Though Sony is saying they will try to keep the language simple.
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06-12-2005
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Yes i read that news too already but i don`t quite believe that is the case,but when the tiime comes to when actually a person can play the consoles then the comparison can be made to determine which one actually has the better graphics or processing speed. :grin:
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06-12-2005
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agreed
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06-13-2005
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Well in JAPAN, the HDD is enabled in many,many games, its the US + Brits that get shafted all the time....also the quote, its called PROPIGANDA, Hitler said he had the best army and would win, so did the japs, stalin in the cold war beginnings etc...
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06-13-2005
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Originally Posted by CJPC
Well in JAPAN, the HDD is enabled in many,many games, its the US + Brits that get shafted all the time....also the quote, its called PROPIGANDA, Hitler said he had the best army and would win, so did the japs, stalin in the cold war beginnings etc...
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Uh, how is that propaganda?
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06-13-2005
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Propaganda isn't like that at all.
It's tricking people into believing your cause is right, usually through lies about the other side.
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06-13-2005
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Uh no.
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The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
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Propaganda is any method of [mass] pursuasion. It's propaganda 'cause he's trying to lead us to believe that the PS3 will be so great, no HDD will be large enough. 
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