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247w ago - Update: As expected, Microsoft has [Register or Login to view links] their stance on banning modified XBox 360 consoles.

Reports now indicate that the fresh wave of Microsoft bans on modified consoles has resulted in systems not only being banned from XBox Live, but also removing the ability to install games to the HDD, forbidding the use of Windows Media Centre extender, and not allowing the retrieval of achievements from backups without corrupting profiles.

Thus far, Microsoft has disabled 600,000 accounts (up to 1 million according to [Register or Login to view links]) in the US and Canada.

To quote from Kushan: - What does this mean for you and what can you do about it?

Firstly, and most obviously, you cannot connect to Xbox Live on this console any more. This means no more game updates (aka title updates), XBLA games, marketplace content, netflix/sky player and so on. There is no way around this, all online capabilities are now disabled PERMANENTLY.

In all likelihood, your gamertag has NOT BEEN BANNED. When your gamertag gets banned, Microsoft sends you an email detailing why, if you have not recieved this email then your profile should be ok, to a certain extent.

Hard Drive installs are now disabled on the banned console. This means any disk-based games you have will no longer play off of the hard drive. If you attempt to play a game, it will tell you that it was installed on a different 360 and needs to be deleted/installed again. When you delete the game and attempt to install it, you are given a message telling you that it is not supported. There is no way to fix this, that functionality is simply gone from the banned 360.

The hard drive itself is left untouched - you can place it in another 360, even an unbanned one, and it will still work just fine. You do NOT need to reformat it to regain any kind of functionality. Any installed games will need to be reinstalled for the console you want to play them on. This is normal behaviour and happens when swapping HDDs on unbanned/legit 360's.

Windows Media Centre functionality is disabled. It is still possible to stream video/music content via the video library.

Your Gamertag may be corrupted. This does not mean your gamertag has been banned, you can recover it using any live-capable 360, however ANY ACHIVEMENTS YOU HAVE EARNED SINCE BEING BANNED WILL BE LOST. Your gamertag will be corrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME it is used on a banned console. This means you cannot use your banned console to play backups offline just to get achievements - it wont work, the second you put your profile back on a good 360, it will be corrupted and all progress lost. There is no way around this.

The same applies to game saves - if you access a game save on a banned 360, it too will be corrupted when accessed on a legit/unbanned 360! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! There is no way around this, either.

Your XBLA games and DLC will still be valid, however to play them on a different 360 you will need to be signed into Xbox Live. This is normal behaviour on unbanned/legit 360's as well. They may be corrupted and have to be re-downloaded if you attempt to access them on a banned 360.

You can transfer all of your downloaded content to a new 360 here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/licensemigration/default.htm however note that you can only do it once every 12 months.

So, in summary your Banned 360:
• Cannot go on Xbox Live
• Cannot install games to the HDD
• Cannot use Windows Media Centre extender
• Cannot be used to get achievements from backups without corrupting your profile

You cannot do anything about this, short of buying a new 360.

There may be more functionality disabled than mentioned here, things are still being discovered.

- So what caused my ban?
There are MANY theories as to what is causing so many consoles to get banned this time, however as of yet there is nothing concrete, just a lot of circumstantial evidence and speculation. Please do not add to this, a full investigation is under-way.

c4eva, the main guy behind iXtreme, had this to say:
fw itself not detectable
suspect they are going hard on warez releases and incorrect use of abgx!

He also added the following:
just to let you know that im looking into the current ban wave. I am currently running several brand new xboxs on live! These xboxs are in various configs. All are running ixtreme 1.61 One is running original discs, another is running on xbl (no discs), another is running a backup from my region! Until tests are completed, no eta on liteon fw!

When we know more, YOU'LL no more, so please do not ask for updates!
A full transcript is available here - http://pastebin.ca/1660777

Remember, if you really want to blame someone, blame the person that decided to modify your 360 in the first place - most likey, that would be you.



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#22 - PS3 News - 246w ago
Just to update the post, c4eva just released a statement that a new FW is coming out that will be very undistinguisable from the original and no more bans.
I made a new Site News article for this here now- Thanks adrianc1982 and +Rep!

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#21 - MDWNY - 246w ago
Everyone who modded their console knew the risks, and they shouldn't bitch now. An xbox is £160, a game is £40. The people who download the games are saving so much money, when they banned they should be happy to buy a new console. Just my thoughts...

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#20 - saviour07 - 246w ago
Ban the gamertag (or even the IP?) NOT THE HARDWARE!
The most effective way of countering the piracy from M$ point of view is to ban the box, not the account.
If someone with a modded drive had their live account banned, sure that would piss them off, but creating a new account is far cheaper and easier to do than buy a new 360!

Also, "ban the IP"?? howabout the person who's IP is banned just sets up a dynamic IP and resets their router... sorted.
So basically, banning the box is M$ best way (short of getting the banned box's MAC address and giving them to the police) of tackling piracy.

Im not condoning what M$ has done, and iv not got a banned 360, just pointing out that moaning bout being banned and asking the powers that be "why my box, and not my account?!" is redundant because these people clearly do have an idea of how to tackle piracy (they built the thing thats being pirated!), which is what they have done.

Also, i just wanna add that i do believe there may be a way of how to counter this in the future, just not yet.

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#19 - adrianc1982 - 246w ago
Just to update the post, c4eva just released a statement that a new FW is coming out that will be very undistinguisable from the original and no more bans. A lot of people are suspecting by his statement that M$ could indeed check the drive to know if it was modified or else why no more bans with a new FW.

So you know the drill people you mod the console you are on your own, sure its cheap to download all those games but the console wont be safe. Seems like a cat - mouse game the ixtreme team is playing with MS.

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#18 - gnasher - 246w ago
What gets me is M$ are clearly more worried about the 360 being used for Linux et al than running pirated games.

The second the JTAG exploit is rumoured (and not even released) M$ release an update to counter it.

If they really want to stop pirating as someone mentioned above, disable the console and if they have a live account that is traceable to an address inform the police. But they don't want to stop it as it drives sells, the just want to be seen to be doing something...

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