PS-SYSTEM 306R Suspected to be Cause of Dead PS3 3.00 Drives

1) If they had a disc in the drive during the update, if so, what was in there.
No my drive was empty

2) Did they use the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the FW upgrade?
No, I have never really used the psn other than demos

3) Did they play a downloaded game from the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the upgrade?
Nope, just upgraded

4) What model number of PS3 console they had?
model number cechg01, 40gb from spiderman 3 bundle

Finally, please NOTE we are only seeking consoles that have NOT been tampered with... meaning no warranty sticker, no good to us.
My warranty sticker is still sealed

I just want my ps3 fixed. I have never hacked or modified it. I think its horrible that its happened to so many people and Sony acts as if its nothing. Just pay $149 to get it fixed or $299 to buy a slim.

You are not alone... many reports have even plagued Sony's official boards and seem be removed shortly after appearing, possibly due to the class action suit being initiated against them.

It definitely isn't fair to charge people for something Sony is most likely responsible for breaking, which is why the resident PS3 Devs have opted to analyze some of the dead drives and provide concrete proof of the root cause that can be used to further substantiate the case.

If any others have dead drives, by all means post the relevant details below and one of the Devs working on the project will reply back. :tup3:

Dave,

Please contact me via my email link on this site and I will contact you if you wish to donate or sell your unit.

In our estimation, SCE is hoping to get away with it because they erroneously believe that their security is watertight and no one will ever know, or more correctly, no one will be able to prove any wrong doing on their part.

Yes, their security is very good; but it isn't anywhere near as watertight as they'd like to believe.

We have already extracted the various FW versions from various builds of drives in the past. So we're in a very good position to determine from a dead drive what exactly has happened to it.

RPS.

my my my,

i remember all the proud PS3 owners clapping in joy when the dark days of the xbox were proving to be a true fact that RROD was invading systems accross the globe. The attitude obviously was that SONY was a superior company to which hardly had no faults.

One story i remember from before sony was about to launch its systems to stores that 5/8 of systems were tested as working meaning 3/8 were filtered from the production line up before packed and shiiped to stores... obviously this was not released to many info sites as it did not count as being a problem for the consumer. As long as it worked for us right?

Problem is now there are a heap load more XBOXs than PS3s and it still seems to be the outcome every per month sales are being calculated and even with the RROD occuring microsoft seems now to have a much better guarantee / repair policy than SONY.

Now that SONY has screwed up the firmware and is causing systems to go down i want to see the free guarantee they will be offering for users... them being SONY and all... im sure there wont be a touch of GREED in their intentions... wish everyone the best of luck.

Mine still on version 2.70.

I don't think upgrading to 3.0 or 3.01 is worth the risk.
Besides, would the devs pay a shipping from Brazil to usa ? Ps3 is so heavy that would cost a lot.

And I would like to understand, is this attempt to get dead drivers to sue sce/sony ? or is it to try to find an way to hack the ps3 system ?

For all those interested I uploaded the BDPT_FIRMWARE_PACKAGE_306R.PKG file CJPC was talking about so all can have a look however good luck reading jumbled up binary.

Also as a side note I have a 60GB Launch PS3 that survived the 3.01 update it had COD4 in the drive, I wasnt playing any downloaded game and hadn't used PSN store and I was on 2.80. Lets hope sony can resolve this issue soon :)

1) If they had a disc in the drive during the update, if so, what was in there.

Yes, a PS2 game "Xenosaga I"

2) Did they use the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the FW upgrade?

No, just downloaded firmware.

3) Did they play a downloaded game from the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the upgrade?

No.

4) What model number of PS3 console they had?

CECHA01 - phat 80gb PS3 with backwards compatibility (hardware driven - emotion chip)

This unit is not modified in anyway and still has the original warranty sticker.

It was approximately 2 weeks after the firmware update when the drive failed.

Shutdown the system directly from a PS3 demo.

Turning on the system afterwards, no disks can be read: CD's, PS1 / PS2 /PS3 disks, DVD's, and blurays.

I +Rep'd ya for your effort yellowsnow, but since the "Big $" is likely to catch wind of this project the PS3 Devs who are working on it wish to keep everything pertaining to it legal. As you're probably aware the FW packages contain (c) SCE code, and basically they don't want to give Sony a reason to put the kibosh on this project is all. ;)

They do have the FW packages though, and are now just seeking a few dead units. :tup:

Is this file/patch updated in all firmware updates? or is this more of a 'one in a while' file/patch updates?

How often are we updating this file? I've heard people suggest their drives have failed at numerous version updates thats all.

The Drive FW is contained in every update package (PUP) - it's updated just about every time, you can usually tell when updating, around 80% or so, your BD drive LED will "blink".

Hmm, I'm kinda curious now. (Be warned, I've been lazy about reading news and I don't lurk on forums, little time for that :p) Before I read this today, I DID run into my drive not working, in which I immediately panicked. I think this was about 2-3 months ago, just before or around the slim came out I think. It could've been after the 3.0 update as I keep things updated on my unit. Nothing played though. Don't remember what I played before, but I was attempting to play my Venture Bros Bluray. However I did the whole PS3 hidden menu recovery thing, and it started to work again and has worked since (I believe I rebuilt the database).

Don't know if this helps or is just... out there and purely coincidence.

sorry I didn't really know they had copyrighted code in every part of the frimware but I guess it makes sense.

1) If they had a disc in the drive during the update, if so, what was in there.
Nothing in the disc drive

2) Did they use the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the FW upgrade? Nope

3) Did they play a downloaded game from the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the upgrade? None

4) What model number of PS3 console they had? TBD - gotta check it out later

PS3 stopped reading discs when I upgraded to 3.00 and continued to fail as I upgraded to 3.01

1) If they had a disc in the drive during the update, if so, what was in there.
Far Cry 2 for PS3 was in

2) Did they use the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the FW upgrade?
No

3) Did they play a downloaded game from the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the upgrade?
No

4) What model number of PS3 console they had?
CECHE06

Console has not been tampered with in any way.

Shouldn't they ($ony) be able to fix this with another FW update and reapplying a fixed FW to the drives ?

Well, that's one of the main reason why I hate the next gen system. They, M$FT, $ony, and Nintendo, force you to update the system for no reason (other than to fix their mistake) and without any warranty of any kind. If the update fail, it is the responsibility of the owner, not the company to pay for the company's mistake.

Let me put it another way, how often did you flash your PC BIOS?

1) If they had a disc in the drive during the update, if so, what was in there.
No

2) Did they use the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the FW upgrade?
No, i downloaded official update to the flash

3) Did they play a downloaded game from the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the upgrade?
I can't answer that, didn't download any games yet

4) What model number of PS3 console they had?
CEHC - 2003A 120GB slim

Finally, please NOTE we are only seeking consoles that have NOT been tampered with... meaning no warranty sticker, no good to us.
Playstation serves 2 weeks only

Any modification or opening will make what we get tainted and useless... we need a system that has failed and has been unopened. Thanks!
No mods made on my ps3, and no softwares downloaded

The most interesting about my bluray drive, i bought 3 new unused games GTA4 Metal gear 4 need for speed pro street, every game has problem.
GTA4 - loads realy slowly the envoirement
Metal gear 4 - about 40 minutes play, it shows icon - disk reading error or insert the disk.
need for speed - lagging for 2 seconds loads of times.

Thank you!

Assuming they could, but then that would also give the class action suit more traction. Also, they are already having problem fixing the game problems that firmware 3.0x broke.

This is also the reason why they should not keep forcing people to update to firmware 3.0x, because until it is fixed, the problem would only escalate. Though it could be their way of making money from the repairs. :rolleyes:
Yeah, that is a very messed up way for them to make people pay by buying their products. :shame:

1) If they had a disc in the drive during the update, if so, what was in there.
Yes, Gauntlet Dark Legacy for PS2

2) Did they use the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the FW upgrade?
Yes, but I didn't buy anything.

3) Did they play a downloaded game from the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the upgrade?
Yes, I was showing a friend FF7 that I downloaded in 1080p (it's not a pretty thing).

4) What model number of PS3 console they had?
CECH01

Finally, please NOTE we are only seeking consoles that have NOT been tampered with... meaning no warranty sticker, no good to us.
Want pics? It's an original 60g that's never been opened.

Just adding in my info for you all to gather on this update issue. Doubt you'd want my console in any case, as I'm in Europe.

1) If they had a disc in the drive during the update, if so, what was in there.
Yes, Far Cry 2. Successfully loaded it twice a few hours before starting the update process. Disc was in during it.

2) Did they use the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the FW upgrade?
The reason to get the update was to enter the PSN store to make a purchase, which I hadn't used in ages. However right after the update I noticed the BR drive wasn't loading the typical way, but continued to make a purchase figuring it was just some minor glitch.

3) Did they play a downloaded game from the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the upgrade?
*Edit* Yes, I did load the Marvel VS Capcom demo before the update to Ultimatly get the full version instead.

4) What model number of PS3 console they had?
CECHH04

Just as a side note, you think 145$ for reapirs is expensive, try 195€ over here in Finland. A new Slim costs 290€.

Actually... in thinking about this, we also played a little Marvel VS Capcom Demo, too. If I think of any others we played, I'll let you know, but, I've reformatted like 10 times since per Sony techs, etc.

Was wondering if there were any reports of blu-ray drives dying from previous firmware updates. I say this because I just had my drive replaced by "Sony" when it suddenly went dead and would not read any discs. This happened before firmware update 3.00 possibly after firmware ver. 2.8 :o

This is why MS don't do firmware updates for the dvd drives, as if there are mistakes the whole console it guffed.. Sony shouldn't be updating the drives if they're not willing to fix them.

any luck guys? I hope we find out soon.

I left RPS a reminder message on IRC today to reply here when time permits on the other 2 pages of people who posted their drive info. ;) I'm not sure myself if he got a drive yet or if he needs more, etc. :o

Hi,

I've been ill so haven't been able to spend time on this, but from the limited amount of response we've had, I can only conclude that this isn't the big issue it was made out to be.

If we had a larger response, I'd feel it warranted more time to investigate, but with under 10 people replying and a number of those not even having had the issue with v3.00+ it makes me think that it's just a small number of people complaining very loudly and making it appear to be a bigger issue that it really is.

If that's the case, I can't justify spending my money on purchasing someone elses bricked drive console.

RPS.

Few days ago my ps3 br drive died, it didnt read any cds, dvds or blurays. had to go back to the shop and swap my slim model for different model, explained everything about it, sellers by the way heard that problem as well, and i wasnt the 1st one. so i got brand new ps3 again.

I'm looking to verify a possible solution.

My drive went kaput after the 3.0 update, nothing I did (play movie or game) worked. However I was able to unbrick it a few hours later using the PS3 recovery menu "Repair/Recover Database" (Can't remember exact wording). Has anyone else tried this? I would love to hear confirmation.

I tried this on my console but no luck. Seems the laser has suddenly just died, but I've hardly played on it at all. :(

I feel that Sony let me and whom ever else down with this formware update. This is the real problem. can't play blueray... but you can play SoCom. You can play dvd rom movies and games. 3.0 jacked up playstations by freezing them. This is what I think.

Uncharted was the reason for 3.01 now I wonder what they did to fix the problems with uncharted. What ever they did maxed out our BD drives. My lens is still good, linux says it's good and a repair guy says that the BD drive is in good working order, so then whats the problem? It's big... but will get even bigger because we closed our eyes!

i dont know if my problem is what you want to find out.

i played tekken6, 40gb cechg04, never opened or anything. screen went black on loading a stage(played before some days without problem) now he dont read blue rays or anything else.

i updated to 3.01 after my tekken6 told me to.

my saturn mate told me its my problem because my ps3 is older then 1and a half year q.q... 469@ of crap now standing left of my tv...

1) If they had a disc in the drive during the update, if so, what was in there.
Call of Duty:MW2

2) Did they use the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the FW upgrade?
Nope

3) Did they play a downloaded game from the PSN store prior to (in the same session, as in, between the power on and upgrade) the upgrade?
Nope, just upgraded

4) What model number of PS3 console they had?
model number cechb01, 20gb from launch date release.

Finally, please NOTE we are only seeking consoles that have NOT been tampered with... meaning no warranty sticker, no good to us.
My warranty sticker is still sealed

Also it did read DVDs after the firmware it just stop doing that watched about 3 movies and it doesn't even spin the disc anymore.