Alleged PS3 Slim Details Leaked, Forecasted to Arrive This Fall

This part sounds interesting... I'm sure it will be to the PS3 Devs to examine also if it's true. :hmm:
A lot of end-users will probably be happy to hear this too, assuming it's also true:

Is he refering to the newest SKUs having part of the firmware on the HDD?

I wonder what could it be.

SSD! Yes! :)

That could be hah.

no way ssd. What reason would there be for that added cost. I hope this new ps3 has less security as part of its slimming.

As nice and tempting as it all sounds and being an owner of every version of Sony's past system-based lineup (original models of PSX, PS2, PS3 and PSP, including all slimmed down versions of them as well) I must say this is a little disappointing to hear about.

All of their other products in the past that were 'slimmed' down, were really upgraded in some way shape or form (PSone got a nicer GUI, better smoothing on games and a few other minor tweaks. The PS2 slim got better smoothing too, plus built-in ethernet jack, more reliable drives, etc. and the PSP-2000 and 3000 got double the onboard RAM, Video output, built in mic, etc.) The slim PS3 seems to be going in the opposite direction to save on costs.

I have no interest in it if they remove things that I have grown to like (OtherOS support). Sure the slim PS2 lost it's initial ability to have a HDD when it was made but by the time it was released people were really pumped for the PS3 so it didn't matter as much anyway. Besides, there really wasn't many games that supported it so it really wasn't needed, hell even now there are really no games using it.

They should at least add one or two simple new things to make it more appealing because to be honest I got all of the slim versions of previous systems because they had at least one key thing they gained, this doesn't seem to be the case with this one, so yeah it's really actually quite disappointing because I was really hopeful of getting a smaller model when they were released as I pretty much knew it would happen someday based on their previous track record but this really just makes it not worth it.

It also hurts more because the economy sucks really bad right now and the PS3 is the most expensive console on the market right now still and unless they dramatically drop the price with this one, it makes it even tougher to cough up the cash for it. The older models had the benefit of being MUCH cheaper and because the economy was far better, it was easier to be able to obtain them, it isn't the case anymore.

I guess for new people who have never owned a PS3 before, they wouldn't miss having OtherOS but for the rest of us who 'may' have thought of upgrading, it kind of ruins the additional amount of possible revenue they could have gained from current owners simply upgrading too.

If they keep cutting the price and removing stuff out of it to save money I find it extremely difficult to believe that this system will really last it's 10-year lifespan they claim it to have.

Poor move Sony, poor move indeed as far as i'm concerned. :crazy:

SSD wont benefit the ps3 much more than putting one of the faster hdd's in, there's a bottleneck on the transfer bandwidth.

I'm curious to know about what changes are coming to the PS3 hard drive. Faster speed perhaps? :hmm: 10,000 RPM? that would be hot. :D

I can't figure out what the cost savings could possibly be in not having OtherOS support. So far as I understand it, that doesn't use any special hardware at all - just the properties of the Cell itself, to run a 'hypervisor' that Linux or whatever runs under. How could you save any significant money by removing that?

I can only come up with a couple, not-terribly-likely scenarios. 1) Sony already uses Cells where one of the SPUs was mis-manufactured. (They always disable one of the eight SPUs, that way they can use even Cells with a slight defect affecting one of the SPUs. This is very common in electronics in general.) Maybe they will use Cells where there's a defect in the hardware virtualization for the Slim, improving yield very slightly.

2) Some of the hardware changes affect the hypervisor they wrote to allow OtherOS support. Rather than spend money and developer time updating the hypervisor, they just disable it for the Slim.

Either way, unless I'm missing something critical the savings are incredibly marginal...

and since he said about the bigger hard drives, 120 GB and 250 GB flavors this may be indeed the slim we are looking at on the box in this photo!! :p

Certainly wouldn't mind the damn thing being smaller, the PS3 is great but it looks like a bread bin. OtherOS I can do without as I use my PC for all that stuff.

Smart on his part never using the same account again. If we end up finding out that these facts are not so, there will not be anybody to rag on.

Anyways, I'm always happy to have a substantial firmware update! I just wish it could be a little bit sooner of course.

First I thought OMG I just bought a PS3 then I saw "No OtherOS", and being a Linux guru I thought .. What the heck, let them kids have it !

Considering that they are removing OtherOS option from the new ps3 does that mean sony will stop patching up exploits people find using linux, if there are any still left?

they always do this.. why don't they just make it small from the start so the people who wait in lines and get shot at and robbed to buy the damn thing don't have an oversized goofball ass system.

LOL! I see your point but sadly companies like Sony enjoy receiving double the revenue from marketing the same product twice.

Not to mention they can usually get the materials and parts cheaper after it has lost it's initial $600 price tag and has been 'out in the open' for a while.

That's the logical side of me speaking. I'd like to say that they just enjoy testing their product's limits and seeing how much they can squeeze into so little, but so does everyone else it seems. :shhh:

For Sony, once it has become 'old news', their mindset tells them 'it's time to pump out the smaller one'. This has been their behavior since the very first PlayStation and i'm sure this won't be the last of it we see.

Maybe this HD changing thing are indeed a changing in the HD filesystem, like going from FAT32 to NTFS, to give a better support to the future mass-releases of fullboxed games in the PSN too, like all of the games being released simultaniously, again, like the PSP actual scene. And, i remember something about FAT32 having some space limits to operate in a decent speed, like only being abble to operate on 180 GB below, because if greater than this, it bacames a little slow to write to the disc.

Its just a shot, but its my bet.