I am an Indian Muslim living in London. I was brought up in india. I support the demand of Hindus in India. Hanuman is one of the Great Gods for Them. By making a Hanuman Game people can make Hanuman Kill innocent people or Haanuman can Die which is not accepted by them. Why to play and make a Game which hurt Someone? I dont think i will ever buy this Game.
its nothing personal, why cant people ever see this. its a GAME.
every single game out there offends some one in some way. and if we pull them all because of this then we have none left. if you don't like the game or it offends you the answer is simple. do not buy it. and do not play it. If a game can make you question your religion, then you must not be that devoted. And if a god dieing in a game bothers you so much, then the line between entertainment and real life is too thin in your life style. and if thats the case you have bigger fish to fry and people around you may or may not be in danger.
again, sorry if i offended but common people, games are games life is life and there is a severe difference that you should be able to identify.
every single game out there offends some one in some way. and if we pull them all because of this then we have none left. if you don't like the game or it offends you the answer is simple. do not buy it. and do not play it. If a game can make you question your religion, then you must not be that devoted. And if a god dieing in a game bothers you so much, then the line between entertainment and real life is too thin in your life style. and if thats the case you have bigger fish to fry and people around you may or may not be in danger.
again, sorry if i offended but common people, games are games life is life and there is a severe difference that you should be able to identify.
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Originally Posted by zeedai
I am an Indian Muslim living in London. I was brought up in india. I support the demand of Hindus in India. Hanuman is one of the Great Gods for Them. By making a Hanuman Game people can make Hanuman Kill innocent people or Haanuman can Die which is not accepted by them. Why to play and make a Game which hurt Someone? I dont think i will ever buy this Game.
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Unfortunately at the same time, players might take in the game as what those gods and godesses stand for as what the videogame portrays instead of the real side of the religious scriptures.
It's a lose, lose situation for everyone at this point. I would love to play the title as I have a need for original game concepts, unfortunately a lot of hard work and effort might be destroyed.
its a new fight arcade game for ps2? :confused:
Apparently, it seems we now have an addition to the genres of games; religious action characters, coming next in Street Fighter or Tekken maybe? :tdown:
Let's just consider this for a moment - what if some developer made a game featuring Jesus Christ fighting and dying if mission failed, and killing people, like in GTA. As far as i know, Jesus never killed, bad or good. This might prove funny to some, but i don't think all the Christians around the world would agree with allowing this game to exist and demean their God. There would be a definite uproar and probably the game company would have to close down, with public apologies for their shortsightedness. Or worse, for all the religious extremists which concentrate mainly in the Middle East, what if some game developer created a character from Muslim's Allah or some of their strong religious figures, and then plastered that in a game, with controllable consequences on what could happen to these emblematic popular religious figures.... There might be bombs going off in all of these game stores, and i wouldn't be surprised if it did happen. And no, i'm not Muslim, i just watch the news regularly (it's not really a secret after 9/11).
I don't know guys... i'm in no way a religious fanatic, BUT the beliefs of all gamers or even the non-gaming community, should NOT be tested via the release of this kind of entertainment. This just feels WRONG. For non-gamers, knowing this kind of entertainment even exists and is freely allowed to circulate or bought by anyone, is not pleasing or even acceptable.
To play with characters created for the sake of the game, is perfectly OK. But to implement highly controversial and opinionated religious figures or representations into a game, i'm really surprised that Sony could think it's alright to publish or even develop that kind of game in the first place. I mean, look at all the unrest in the world. In the Middle East, for instance, it's all about religion and different beliefs, that made people kill each other. They hate each other, not because either side of the war have bad people that they know personally, but mostly because of their religion which they were born with. So, it doesn't matter who they blow up; innocent men, women or children - as long as they are not part of these terrorists' own beliefs. Knowing this, making a game which trivializes faith of massive number of people, is seriously adding fuel to the fire and in some parts of the world, this could end up being gravely criticized and pointed at as demeaning and insulting.
Something is going to come down on this attitude at game development. Hopefully the game is pulled and the hate/protests spree is averted by the game developers. There are many hundred millions of Hindus in the world and most of them hold true to their beliefs, so i don't see how this game is ever going to get around the world without some resistance, that is, if it's not pulled.
Let's just consider this for a moment - what if some developer made a game featuring Jesus Christ fighting and dying if mission failed, and killing people, like in GTA. As far as i know, Jesus never killed, bad or good. This might prove funny to some, but i don't think all the Christians around the world would agree with allowing this game to exist and demean their God. There would be a definite uproar and probably the game company would have to close down, with public apologies for their shortsightedness. Or worse, for all the religious extremists which concentrate mainly in the Middle East, what if some game developer created a character from Muslim's Allah or some of their strong religious figures, and then plastered that in a game, with controllable consequences on what could happen to these emblematic popular religious figures.... There might be bombs going off in all of these game stores, and i wouldn't be surprised if it did happen. And no, i'm not Muslim, i just watch the news regularly (it's not really a secret after 9/11).
I don't know guys... i'm in no way a religious fanatic, BUT the beliefs of all gamers or even the non-gaming community, should NOT be tested via the release of this kind of entertainment. This just feels WRONG. For non-gamers, knowing this kind of entertainment even exists and is freely allowed to circulate or bought by anyone, is not pleasing or even acceptable.
To play with characters created for the sake of the game, is perfectly OK. But to implement highly controversial and opinionated religious figures or representations into a game, i'm really surprised that Sony could think it's alright to publish or even develop that kind of game in the first place. I mean, look at all the unrest in the world. In the Middle East, for instance, it's all about religion and different beliefs, that made people kill each other. They hate each other, not because either side of the war have bad people that they know personally, but mostly because of their religion which they were born with. So, it doesn't matter who they blow up; innocent men, women or children - as long as they are not part of these terrorists' own beliefs. Knowing this, making a game which trivializes faith of massive number of people, is seriously adding fuel to the fire and in some parts of the world, this could end up being gravely criticized and pointed at as demeaning and insulting.
Something is going to come down on this attitude at game development. Hopefully the game is pulled and the hate/protests spree is averted by the game developers. There are many hundred millions of Hindus in the world and most of them hold true to their beliefs, so i don't see how this game is ever going to get around the world without some resistance, that is, if it's not pulled.
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Originally Posted by zeedai
I am an Indian Muslim living in London. I was brought up in india. I support the demand of Hindus in India. Hanuman is one of the Great Gods for Them. By making a Hanuman Game people can make Hanuman Kill innocent people or Haanuman can Die which is not accepted by them. Why to play and make a Game which hurt Someone? I dont think i will ever buy this Game.
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I'm an American atheist living in America, married to a Catholic. Our kids played "The Simpsons Game", where in the climax you have to beat the Judeo-Christian God in a dance-off. I don't recall any protests about that. The "God of War" series would probably be very offensive to believers in the ancient Greek pantheon... but they don't have a terribly big lobby.
Sorry, but freedom means the right to be wrong, to say things that other people don't like. I can't tell you how many times a week I run into people saying or writing that atheists are selfish, humorless sociopaths just moments away from killing or raping. The answer to bad speech is good speech.
Use it as an educational ploy to tell people about Hinduism, put out articles and websites that tell about what Hindus believe about Haanuman, etc. That's the way to handle it.
some games are going to offend someone somewhere about something... thats a fact. and like someone posted before me has said, we will be left with nothing if all games are treated as demeaning and offensive material sony as a company (especially as they are also the publishes of this particular title) do have a responsibility to monitor and maintain the offensive material and i found this statement from them when talking about this game:
(quoted from here: http://www.webnewswire.com/node/451640)
for me, this is acceptable. and if someone is offended by this material, then they have a right to voice that opinion.
but that doesnt mean that they are right...
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The game, Hanuman: Boy Warrior, which is currently only available in India, was developed with inspiration from the Hindu mythology and at every step, prominent Indian scholars were consulted.
The aim of the game has always been to encourage young Indians to celebrate the stories of Hanuman and to help bring these key lessons to life. The characterisation of Hanuman is true to the actual depiction in Indian mythology, both in terms of the look as well as the powers that he has. The game has been developed with the Indian value systems and depicts a merciful winning of Good over Evil, something that is synonymous with Hanuman as a character. When creating the game, at no stage were any liberties taken to deviate from the divine power and nature of Hanuman. The endeavor actually focuses on using the powerful interactive form to bring the various mythological characters of India to the Indian audience. |
for me, this is acceptable. and if someone is offended by this material, then they have a right to voice that opinion.
but that doesnt mean that they are right...
i am brazilian and don't speak portuguese as well, but i heard indian play videogame more than north americans..
it's that true ??
it's that true ??
they do, but not on the latest consoles, as their economy is not as strong, and the people experience the effects of economic recessions harder, but their conditions have been steadily improving in the last decade and more middle-income families now are able to afford nice cars, and other technological luxuries, like game consoles, mobile phones, etc.
the amount of people playing on the xbox360 is still higher there, but they have a much larger base for the ps2, which has been around since far longer. the ps3 is having a hard time getting adopted there, as it's still more expensive the xbox360 arcade and the bluray tech isn't something that's anywhere easy on the consumer's wallets. no pirated copy plays on the ps3, so the xbox360 is logically the perfect choice for the gamer with no means after saving up to buy their console. buy just the console and then buy cheap pirated games. that's like heaven's words compared to the ps3 and having to buy expensive original games only.
i watched this a while back on TV. i think it was the BBC. it must be somewhere on the net as well. google is your friend. :chill:
the amount of people playing on the xbox360 is still higher there, but they have a much larger base for the ps2, which has been around since far longer. the ps3 is having a hard time getting adopted there, as it's still more expensive the xbox360 arcade and the bluray tech isn't something that's anywhere easy on the consumer's wallets. no pirated copy plays on the ps3, so the xbox360 is logically the perfect choice for the gamer with no means after saving up to buy their console. buy just the console and then buy cheap pirated games. that's like heaven's words compared to the ps3 and having to buy expensive original games only.
i watched this a while back on TV. i think it was the BBC. it must be somewhere on the net as well. google is your friend. :chill:
Hmmmm.
Why does it seem that Christians are the only "religion" that can laugh at themselves and their God, and know it'll be ok?
I can't help but think the other religions take themselves WAY too seriously.
At the same time, though, I can see zeedai's point... I suppose the more hard-core believers would find it offensive, just as many hard-core Christians (we call them bible-thumpers) would too. BUT, the difference, I think, is that while the hard-core Christians would simply find it offensive, other religions would want to kill people over it. I'm hoping the Hindus aren't like that, but I think Muslims would be.
I can see this thread going downhill really fast. No offense intended towards anybody or any faith.
Rob
Why does it seem that Christians are the only "religion" that can laugh at themselves and their God, and know it'll be ok?
I can't help but think the other religions take themselves WAY too seriously.
At the same time, though, I can see zeedai's point... I suppose the more hard-core believers would find it offensive, just as many hard-core Christians (we call them bible-thumpers) would too. BUT, the difference, I think, is that while the hard-core Christians would simply find it offensive, other religions would want to kill people over it. I'm hoping the Hindus aren't like that, but I think Muslims would be.
I can see this thread going downhill really fast. No offense intended towards anybody or any faith.
Rob
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other religions would want to kill people over it. I'm hoping the Hindus aren't like that, but I think Muslims would be.
I can see this thread going downhill really fast. No offense intended towards anybody or any faith. Rob |
its statements like that which can cause this thread to go downhill very fast, whereas other posters here are actually contributing to the discussion in terms of what either the gaming community/industry would do or what the hindu's who believe the game should not be released would do; you included an incredibly offenssive statement about a religion which has nothing to do with this thread :confused:
i know you say "No offense intended towards anybody or any faith" but you cant imply something like that and NOT cause offense
just think how to better articulate your post before submitting it please.
You just proved my point.
Rob
Rob
how have i just proved your point?
I'm neither Muslim, christian, Hindu or Jew
i am not saying the game itself should be banned or is offensive...
what i am saying is that your statement "other religions would want to kill people over it. I'm hoping the Hindus aren't like that, but I think Muslims would be." is offensive because you aren't talking about the game offending the people who's faith it is centric of, but are implying that followers of a completely different religious belief, would definitely kill over being offended by such a concept.
believing that others would go to such extremes over a game is stupid, and implying that Muslims would do such a thing IS offensive.
i care very little as to whether you think i am one of those people who take religion too seriously or not, because that is not my point here... my point is to show you that stating Muslims or any other religion would kill others simply because of whatever preconceptions you may have is offensive and is an opinion best kept to yourself
I'm neither Muslim, christian, Hindu or Jew
i am not saying the game itself should be banned or is offensive...
what i am saying is that your statement "other religions would want to kill people over it. I'm hoping the Hindus aren't like that, but I think Muslims would be." is offensive because you aren't talking about the game offending the people who's faith it is centric of, but are implying that followers of a completely different religious belief, would definitely kill over being offended by such a concept.
believing that others would go to such extremes over a game is stupid, and implying that Muslims would do such a thing IS offensive.
i care very little as to whether you think i am one of those people who take religion too seriously or not, because that is not my point here... my point is to show you that stating Muslims or any other religion would kill others simply because of whatever preconceptions you may have is offensive and is an opinion best kept to yourself
Firstly I like to mention that I am a Hindu myself. I cannot comment on the physical game itself as I have not played the game. I think it is a good idea to teach the youth about religion and culture even if it through a game because they are the ones that are majority gamers.
But from what I have been reading in the previous posts, Hanuman Kill innocent people or Haanuman can Die, I think this depends on the player. I suggest one should play the game before making comments of the incorrect depiction of Lord Hanuman. It all depends on what you as the player do in the game.
Movies and cartoons were made in the past of Hanuman This is also a form of entertainment, so video games are not much different. I think this isnt about religion, its more about an issue of video games.
But from what I have been reading in the previous posts, Hanuman Kill innocent people or Haanuman can Die, I think this depends on the player. I suggest one should play the game before making comments of the incorrect depiction of Lord Hanuman. It all depends on what you as the player do in the game.
Movies and cartoons were made in the past of Hanuman This is also a form of entertainment, so video games are not much different. I think this isnt about religion, its more about an issue of video games.
i am a muslim, it doesnt mean that i ll enjoy the game because Lord Hanumaan is killing innocent people or he is dieing in the game. as said above its just a game, and everygame has a story in it, so children will come to know the truth and they will understand better this way...
the hard believers can be affected by this, if they take it negatively, but from my side i'll support this game because at the moment only hindus knows about LORD hanumaan's story, but with this game everyone will know what was he actually.. as there are loads of children who are crazy about such games..
thats all i can say...
once again i repeat, am not supporting this game because am muslim or somthing..
its just for entertainment and knowledge too :p
the hard believers can be affected by this, if they take it negatively, but from my side i'll support this game because at the moment only hindus knows about LORD hanumaan's story, but with this game everyone will know what was he actually.. as there are loads of children who are crazy about such games..
thats all i can say...
once again i repeat, am not supporting this game because am muslim or somthing..
its just for entertainment and knowledge too :p
I myself think that this maybe a huge misconception. i am also a hindu and I agree that because Hanuman has been in movies and cartoons, he should be depicted on the next level of entertainment... video games. I remember in Prince of Persia, there were paintings of Hindu deities all over the place. I do not see that it is a big jump from seeing to actually playing as the god.
