does this mean we can buy both ps2 and dreamcast games over PSN.. if so i can get Tankaichi 3 again!
i hope this is legit! awesome news to start off the new year!
Shenmue would be nice!
Start preparing yourself now: The only ps2 games that will play on newer ps3s will be the ones that sony releases via PSN. Disc based ps2 games will require a ps2. It's possible that your favorite ps2 game will show up on at least one of the regional stores, if it was popular. They won't waste their time releasing "every" ps2 game, it's not worth the time spent on localization and ensuring compatibility. In addition just the sheer volume of titles. the server space that sony would need to host all that just doesn't equate with its free pricing structure.
Realistically, PS3's CAN play 100% (or near that) of PS1 games, but even PS1 support over PSN, though better and getting better all the time, is still relegated to only the most popular of titles.
Realistically, PS3's CAN play 100% (or near that) of PS1 games, but even PS1 support over PSN, though better and getting better all the time, is still relegated to only the most popular of titles.
It's true what others are saying also.. people are getting so excited over this news, but should we be getting excited over repurchasing PS2 games we already own just to play them on the PS3? :hmm:
I own a PS3 that can already play PS2 games (launch date PS3 60GB) but if I didn't I still wouldn't plan on rebuying tons of PS2 games via PSN. :yuck:
I own a PS3 that can already play PS2 games (launch date PS3 60GB) but if I didn't I still wouldn't plan on rebuying tons of PS2 games via PSN. :yuck:
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It's true what others are saying also.. people are getting so excited over this news, but should we be getting excited over repurchasing PS2 games we already own just to play them on the PS3? :hmm:
I own a PS3 that can already play PS2 games (launch date PS3 60GB) but if I didn't I still wouldn't plan on rebuying tons of PS2 games via PSN. :yuck: |
There are a lot of great titles and for example I played a lot that I didnt buy, I rented or someone lend me or I did pirate some games and I would really like to buy them this time to play them again and to make some justice.
Yea, I just can't see buying them only as "PSN playable" titles myself though. :tdown:
Aside from the fact that you can't download them more than 5? times each, if I was in the mindset to actually buy old PS2 games I would probably get them used for just as cheap... and be able to retain a hardcopy (that could even be backed up, in case it gets lost/damaged/etc). :D2
Aside from the fact that you can't download them more than 5? times each, if I was in the mindset to actually buy old PS2 games I would probably get them used for just as cheap... and be able to retain a hardcopy (that could even be backed up, in case it gets lost/damaged/etc). :D2
unless Jet Grind Radio appears I dont really care =\
its activations... some people said it like that, which is confusing... =\
but as long as you're active on that account, you can download anything on it a unlimited number of times.
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Yea, I just can't see buying them only as "PSN playable" titles myself though. :tdown:
Aside from the fact that you can't download them more than 5? times each, if I was in the mindset to actually buy old PS2 games I would probably get them used for just as cheap... and be able to retain a hardcopy (that could even be backed up, in case it gets lost/damaged/etc). :D2 |
but as long as you're active on that account, you can download anything on it a unlimited number of times.
I really hope this rumor is true.. aside from ps2 games, I'd really enjoy seeing and playing shenmue and sonic adventure on my ps3. not to mention playing some of my favorite ps2 classics.
I do have a Dreamcast, but when I found it baking in the sun at a Flea market for $10, the only game I had in mind was marvel vs capcom 2. Seeing that ps3 already has this title, I'm pretty interested in what other games besides jet grind radio, dreamcast has to offer on ps3.
Seems more gimmicky than anything else- a novelty at most.
Seems more gimmicky than anything else- a novelty at most.
I for one look forward to both the dreamcast and the ps2 being able to be played on the ps3, the reason being is I missed out on a lot of great gaming on the ps2 once my neo 4.1 system died on me I jumped ship to microsofts xbox and never looked back so therefore I did not play a lot of the titles.
Never seen the likes of say the God of War Series, never even seen Socom, and so forth, the dreamcast I dont understand how that is going to work out because I know a few titles on there used the memory card along with the game to play it, having the lcd screen on the memory card to say choose the plays in the football game and so forth.
Never seen the likes of say the God of War Series, never even seen Socom, and so forth, the dreamcast I dont understand how that is going to work out because I know a few titles on there used the memory card along with the game to play it, having the lcd screen on the memory card to say choose the plays in the football game and so forth.
I can agree about FINALLY bringing PS2 Support to the PS3 (IT'S ABOUT BLOODY TIME!)
However I'm not so sure about bringing Dreamcast support to the PS3.
I have some reasons and ideas to make this work:
1. The games would HAVE to be downloadable, on CD (A.K.A. and similar to the DC Kalisto and Echleon scene releases) or on a DVD (the biggest DC game is 2 disc with a full total capacity of 3.4 GB, and it gives it room for graphics enhancement), as the PS3 can't handle the Dreamcast's proprietary GD-ROM discs.
2. There is no hardware support for the Dreamcast VMU. Since this is Sega we're talking about that wants this implemented, maybe Sony could "borrow" the rights of the VMU Design, and just fit a mini USB connector on instead of the Dreamcast data connector. This would allow it to behave EXACTLY like the original did.
3. All the flaws in the Dreamcast (Mil-CD) should be present for the sake of backwards compatibility and authenticity.
4. The PS3 should be able to emulate the Dreamcast at least 10x over. Enhancements of graphics could be added easily.
5. Big name titles should be present to promote (i.e. Sonic, Jet Grind Radio, Skies of Arcadia, Shenmue I and II.) Since Phantasy Star Online (V1 and 2 on DC) is dead except for Private Servers, why not bring it out AGAIN but with free servers? It would probably get popular like they did when they released it as a pay-for MMORPG, maybe even more if it was for free.
6. "Leaked" titles (mainly Propeller Arena and Half-Life) could be available for purchase if rights were obtained, and since both games were ready for publication, they should be ready to go..
7. Make it easy for people with a DC developer unit, or with a PS3 with a new development program, to make their own games. There is such a big homebrew for the Dreamcast. People could make a killing!
However I'm not so sure about bringing Dreamcast support to the PS3.
I have some reasons and ideas to make this work:
1. The games would HAVE to be downloadable, on CD (A.K.A. and similar to the DC Kalisto and Echleon scene releases) or on a DVD (the biggest DC game is 2 disc with a full total capacity of 3.4 GB, and it gives it room for graphics enhancement), as the PS3 can't handle the Dreamcast's proprietary GD-ROM discs.
2. There is no hardware support for the Dreamcast VMU. Since this is Sega we're talking about that wants this implemented, maybe Sony could "borrow" the rights of the VMU Design, and just fit a mini USB connector on instead of the Dreamcast data connector. This would allow it to behave EXACTLY like the original did.
3. All the flaws in the Dreamcast (Mil-CD) should be present for the sake of backwards compatibility and authenticity.
4. The PS3 should be able to emulate the Dreamcast at least 10x over. Enhancements of graphics could be added easily.
5. Big name titles should be present to promote (i.e. Sonic, Jet Grind Radio, Skies of Arcadia, Shenmue I and II.) Since Phantasy Star Online (V1 and 2 on DC) is dead except for Private Servers, why not bring it out AGAIN but with free servers? It would probably get popular like they did when they released it as a pay-for MMORPG, maybe even more if it was for free.
6. "Leaked" titles (mainly Propeller Arena and Half-Life) could be available for purchase if rights were obtained, and since both games were ready for publication, they should be ready to go..
7. Make it easy for people with a DC developer unit, or with a PS3 with a new development program, to make their own games. There is such a big homebrew for the Dreamcast. People could make a killing!
This is awesome news if it pans out.
Everyone assumes Sony removed BC so they could profit on PSN, but tell me this. If that was their strategy from the start, why leave PS1 disc reading in all models of the PS3?
Look at it this way: The US 60gb had both the GS (GPU) and EE (CPU). the software emulated 80gb still had the GS (GPU), only the EE (CPU) is emulated.
On all other models there is no GS or EE. Sony has been working on an emulator for these models but it is not ready for prime. When it is ready, they will enable the PSN downloads. Everyone assumes that when this happens, they won't switch back on disc support, but we don't know that for sure, now do we?
As I said I just believe if they really were doing this for PSN profit, we wouldn't have PS1 reading in new PS3s either. It would make no sense to rip one and not the other.
As for GD-ROM support, it seems there is no special laser wavelengths going on, and that a firmware update could definitely tell the BD-ROM in the PS3 how to read these discs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD-ROM
Look at it this way: The US 60gb had both the GS (GPU) and EE (CPU). the software emulated 80gb still had the GS (GPU), only the EE (CPU) is emulated.
On all other models there is no GS or EE. Sony has been working on an emulator for these models but it is not ready for prime. When it is ready, they will enable the PSN downloads. Everyone assumes that when this happens, they won't switch back on disc support, but we don't know that for sure, now do we?
As I said I just believe if they really were doing this for PSN profit, we wouldn't have PS1 reading in new PS3s either. It would make no sense to rip one and not the other.
As for GD-ROM support, it seems there is no special laser wavelengths going on, and that a firmware update could definitely tell the BD-ROM in the PS3 how to read these discs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GD-ROM
They wouldn't need to release all these other games if they'd just bring some damned games from JP to NA.
I have a 20gb, so I'm good to go, but I still find myself not playing any ps2 games on it after I beat ffxii. I really have no desire to play any others. I had a PS1 in the DC days, and a PS2, I am comfortable that I played all those games a sufficient amount that I can comfortably put them to rest and move on. I'm waiting on titles from japan to make it over first. If they brought them over, I'd pay for them, and they wouldn't need to make ps2 games work. I want new content personally.
I have a 20gb, so I'm good to go, but I still find myself not playing any ps2 games on it after I beat ffxii. I really have no desire to play any others. I had a PS1 in the DC days, and a PS2, I am comfortable that I played all those games a sufficient amount that I can comfortably put them to rest and move on. I'm waiting on titles from japan to make it over first. If they brought them over, I'd pay for them, and they wouldn't need to make ps2 games work. I want new content personally.
I would be well pleased if this news is true, especially if they choose 2 give the games a resolution boost to make them look good on an HDTV
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They wouldn't need to release all these other games if they'd just bring some damned games from JP to NA.
I have a 20gb, so I'm good to go, but I still find myself not playing any ps2 games on it after I beat ffxii. I really have no desire to play any others. I had a PS1 in the DC days, and a PS2, I am comfortable that I played all those games a sufficient amount that I can comfortably put them to rest and move on. I'm waiting on titles from japan to make it over first. If they brought them over, I'd pay for them, and they wouldn't need to make ps2 games work. I want new content personally. |
My ps3 is bc and I really would like to see ps2 games on the psn its cheap, easy and confortable.
This whole story reminds me of the PSP. There Sony added a PSX emulator with firmware 3.00. It was supposed to only work with downloaded PSX games from the PSN. Back then Dark_Alex found a way to convert normal PSX disc images into the appropriate format for the PSP emulator.
I would think that it should be easy to construct a similar Poploader for PS2 games on the PS3, once it gets hacked. Sony would make a first step into that direction with the emulator.
I would think that it should be easy to construct a similar Poploader for PS2 games on the PS3, once it gets hacked. Sony would make a first step into that direction with the emulator.
I've still got my dreamcast but it bit the dust a long time ago.
They have to put powerstone 1 and 2 on psn and maybe add an online feature? Used to love playing that with a few mates round and a few beers.
Think also....
Sonic adventure 1 and 2
Resident evil code veronica
....would go down well and that the dreamcast controls would work well on the ps3 controller.
They have to put powerstone 1 and 2 on psn and maybe add an online feature? Used to love playing that with a few mates round and a few beers.
Think also....
Sonic adventure 1 and 2
Resident evil code veronica
....would go down well and that the dreamcast controls would work well on the ps3 controller.
As crazy as it sounds, the PS3 BD drive might be too fast - if you recall how the GD rom drive worked, essentially it ran at half speed (which, doubled the capacity) - would be cool if they could get the disks working, but well, I really doubt that would happen.























